Division breakdown troubles

[James D Burns]

As I noted in my AAR, I’m having trouble with division breakdowns. If I hit the – key, a division is broken down and all brigades within that division are also broken down to individual regiment units. Each regiment is then renamed from whatever it was named inside its parent brigade and I cannot then rebuild the brigades.

I had thought the problem was caused due to my AAR being a much older save game (I also tested a new start using a division on turn one of an 1862 scenario and it worked ok a week or so ago before this last patch), but I started a new game today and about 4-5 turns into the game I tried to reorganize the Federal army and found every single division I tried to breakdown is bugged just like my AAR save game.

I’ve sent a save off to support, but since support is down for the next few days due to Pocus being away from his PC, I thought I’d ask here if anyone else is having the same trouble.

If not I’ll probably do a complete reinstall.

So has anyone tested this recently using the Union early April 1861 scenario (might be a scenario specific problem)? Make sure you execute a few turns with no AI on (turns go faster) just to be sure you test under the same conditions my problems occurred under.

Thanks,

Jim

[James D Burns]

Well I loaded up three different Union starts (late 1861, 1862 and 1863) and things work normally when I divide divisions. I tried another early 1861 start and executed the turns out until the release of the divisions and again they are divided into single regiment units.

Perhaps it is my saved game that is bugged afterall and it has somehow corrupted the main April 1861 scenario file it was started under. Though I find it odd that a save file can somehow damage the scenario files themselves.

Jim

[caranorn]

Yep, it's the April 1861 Event files. But I don't think it's the event files themselves that are bugged (code for the affected units is identical or almost identical to previous versions), I rather expect something else in the program was changed in a recent patch...

So far the Union divisions (that start formed) of the Army of Northeast Virginia and the Confederate brigades with attached leaders are affected. In the case of the divisions you will notice they no longer show component brigades when you hover your mouse cursor over the division icon.

By the way, since an even more recent patch the component regiments once split from their parent division/brigade no longer even use their historic names and instead revert to "Regulars"' names (style 1st US, 1st CSA, Ws. Artillery etc.)

[James D Burns]

Thanks for confirming this Marc, I was dreading doing a reinstall.

Jim

[Doomwalker]

I am getting this also. It didn't do this in earlier versions.

[Pocus]

the problem is about the component brigades, they are erased if the code thinks no elements can go into them... Do you have a saved game which can show that? You create a division from some brigades, and then the brigades are erroneously erased? Once they are deleted, the behavior is 'normal' though.

[caranorn]

I've seen this happen mostly to the event created divisions and the Confederate brigades with leaders. But now that you mention it I recall the same happening to any "Volunteer" brigades (the type with two Militia and one Light Regiment) if the Militias have trained to Recruit or better quality. Of course also with 6 pounder Artillery batteries that have upgraded to 10 pounder etc.

But as said, the April 1861 event Divisions and some Brigades do this all the time. Just wait for them to become unlocked, hover the mouse cursor over the Division icon (you will notice the Division's components aren't shown) and disband the division...

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Pocus

A really simple way to see this behavior is to start a july USA game, go to T. Runyon's 4th division at Alexandria. It contains NJ Militia Bde and NJ Volunteer Bde. When you split the division, the elements get mixed up.

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Another 1-turn way to see the problem is to start july USA game. Then move the Volunteer Bde's with Patterson to York, PA. Move a Division HQ from Alexandria to York. Next turn, form a division, then split the division. The militia elements group together leaving the light infantry elements on their own with the generic 1st US, 2nd US.

[caranorn]

Yep, I think those Volunteer brigades are setup for only 3 Regiments of Militia. So the Light Regiment will always split out on first opportunity. At least for a time you could also attach a third Militia regiment to these brigades (making for 1 Light and 3 Militia). I believe this might have changed in part with a recent patch (or I just never considered attaching additional Militia).

[James D Burns]

the problem is about the component brigades, they are erased if the code thinks no elements can go into them... Do you have a saved game which can show that? You create a division from some brigades, and then the brigades are erroneously erased? Once they are deleted, the behavior is 'normal' though.

Hi Pocus,

I sent a save game of the new game I tried to play to support when I posted this thread. I didn't create any divisions though, I simply tried to reorganize the Federal army once it was unlocked.

Jim