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Leadership Boni in Multiple Stacks

Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:17 pm

Major Tom's enlightening contribution on Frontage Frontage Primer, and Questions shows that leadership greatly influences Frontage. Basically, Frontage determines how many units will actually fight on one side at the same time; the more the better. But, unless I've missed something, it leaves one question open.

Since all the units in a region at the point in time that the battle starts are eligible to part take in that battle it should play no role whether units are in one or multiple stacks when Frontage is determined and the battle is played out.

So for an example assume a corp with one division in it and a second independent division, with an extra general so that it is not under-commanded, are moving along the same path. Both the corp and the independent division encounter an enemy corp in a region along the movement path, through which a battle develops. Assuming that when the battle starts both the corp and independent division are in the battle region, will it make any difference that the independent division is not in the corp stack?

The Frontage rules seem to say 'no', but I've never seen a conclusive answer to this question. Anybody have an answer or thoughts on this?

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Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:03 pm

My thoughts (you now owe me a penny),

The 2 units will not have frontage issues, and can be interchangable, except they may or may not fight together. I have seen this in MTSG, where a corps that did not start a battle get slaughtered after joining, and the initial corps has no damage. I believe that all available units join in the frontage fun. The problem is not everyone fights together all the time (can't we just hold hands and sing "It's a small world"?). So in your example, the division may fight by itself, in which case the Corps does nothing, or the Corps fights and the division just sits on it's laurels (restin' like). I must admit that I am not 100% certain about this, but have seen several instances of 1 unit getting destroyed, while everyone else just passes time.
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Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:15 pm

Jim-NC wrote:My thoughts (you now owe me a penny),

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your reply. Strange request, but okay
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Jim-NC wrote:The 2 units will not have frontage issues, and can be interchangable, except they may or may not fight together. I have seen this in MTSG, where a corps that did not start a battle get slaughtered after joining, and the initial corps has no damage. I believe that all available units join in the frontage fun. The problem is not everyone fights together all the time (can't we just hold hands and sing "It's a small world"?). So in your example, the division may fight by itself, in which case the Corps does nothing, or the Corps fights and the division just sits on it's laurels (restin' like). I must admit that I am not 100% certain about this, but have seen several instances of 1 unit getting destroyed, while everyone else just passes time.


I was actually thinking more about if the independent division were caught, so to say, would the corp commander's leadership still be used to determine frontage, or only the division commander's?

I have a tendency to think that only the division commander's boni count. I've had division stacks with a higher ranking (seniority) general (not the division commander ) accompanying the division go into battle and the division commander get praised and put up for promotion, but the actual stack commander doesn't.

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Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:28 pm

Captain_Orso wrote:Hi Jim,

Thanks for your reply. Strange request, but okay
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What am I supposed to do with that ;) It's not like I can spend it anywhere. :wacko: knock, knock, knock, Penny, knock, knock, knock, Penny, knock, knock, knock, Penny

Captain_Orso wrote:I was actually thinking more about if the independent division were caught, so to say, would the corp commander's leadership still be used to determine frontage, or only the division commander's?

I have a tendency to think that only the division commander's boni count. I've had division stacks with a higher ranking (seniority) general (not the division commander ) accompanying the division go into battle and the division commander get praised and put up for promotion, but the actual stack commander doesn't.


I would say (my thoughts), that only the commander fighting counts, so the corps doesn't. Don't know about the stack commander (where he doesn't control the division. Hmmm!
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