Bull Run 1831 Scenario - How to win?

[janbak]

Hello every body,

after reading the manual and playing both the tutorial I'm trying to play my first mini scenario (5 turns) the first Battle of Bull Run (aka the first Battle of Manassas) ... but it seems impossible to win

What I have to do to win this scenario both as Confederate and as Union?

I hope you could help me

Many thanks

[jason_r]

I'd recomend the Shiloh scenario to begin with as the Bull Run scenario can be frustaring depending on what the AI does

[Durk]

Jason_r's recommendation is a good one. Shiloh is a fuller situation with more play.

The scenarios are mostly to try out the game. Hard to win. Victory conditions in this game are different than what you might be used to in other games. In these scenario, if you improve your level of victory point versus the AI, you have won.

Another option is to play both sides and not use AI. This allows you to see the range of options and to experiment more fully.

[janbak]

Thank you very much

I tried the Gettysbourg scenario too but it seems quite impossible like Bull Run

I'll try Shiloh now, hoping for better results

I'll keep you informed

Many thanks

[Taillebois]

I've tried the Bull Run 20 times today without success. Always a stalemate. Even when I lost Richmond and my score was -29 to +179 the result was given as a stalemate. (I was playing at doing nothing on several goes just to see what the AI would do). Almost every result was 34 to 62 or 35 to 61.

[oberst_klink]

is the one to familiarize oneself with forming Divisions, learning about supply, riverine movement and the lot. I forgot the name of the bloke who designed them *somewhere at the scenario forum*; he also did the Atlanta Campaign. Start with those scenarios old chaps. The others you have mentioned are, well - a tad too short and impossible to win, uh?

From Cyprus with love,

Klink, Oberst

[janbak]

Thank you very much to all

I was a little worried, I began to think it wasn't the right game for me but yr posts are encouraging

[charlesonmission]

The short practice scenarios are really for practice and not for trying to win per se. The full campaigns do a very good job representing victory or defeat.

Charles

Thank you very much to all

I was a little worried, I began to think it wasn't the right game for me but yr posts are encouraging

[Captain_Orso]

Whether you play the north or south, you can never win the Bull Run 1831 Scenario. It's like Star Trek's Kobayashi Maru test, because if you attack in 1831 they will send you to Leavenworth for many years