Are liberated nations my satellites or neutral ?

[veji1]

If I get Prussia to liberate the Duchy of Warsaw and Westphalia in a peace treaty rather than waiting for Tilsit to be available, will those 2 new countries be satellites of mine or will they just appear, neutral to everybody and not linked with any alliance ?

[zooter]

When they were freed by a generic peace treaty, they became independent and not at all allied with France, would not accept any diplomacy from France, which I did not think was right.

[veji1]

When they were freed by a generic peace treaty, they became independent and not at all allied with France, would not accept any diplomacy from France, which I did not think was right.

Were you playing France ? This makes no sense whatsoever, if a country forces another to release a liberated nation (Warsaw, Catalonia, whatever), they should become automatically member of their alliance (giving full supply and passage rights...). So I suppose I'd better wait for Tilsit then.. Absurd.

[Pocus]

They should get very high positive relationship with their liberator. I don't see why you can't do diplomacy with them and persuade them to join your alliance?

[veji1]

They should get very high positive relationship with their liberator. I don't see why you can't do diplomacy with them and persuade them to join your alliance?

Thanks for the anwer Pocus. To me the default setting should be that the released minors are part of the alliance of the liberator (aka the country who forced the liberatio, not the orginal owned of course) for several game reasons ;
- It means that they give supply and passage to the liberator to prevent adverse effects (teleportation, starvation, etc).
- It reflects an intuitive logic : if I get an ennemy to release a new country I am setting up this country in a way that favors me, making the country an ally is the best possible way.

Depending on the diplomatic engine, the newly released nation could pretty quickly chose to leave the liberator's alliance, that could be done I suppose. But at the start having the liberated nation be automatically a member of the liberator's alliance would make sense (or there should be an EUII vassal equivalent at least).

[Pocus]

I agree and this is done for the next patch

[veji1]

I agree and this is done for the next patch

Great thanks, I know I have been a bit rough on the forums at time, but I support your efforts to make the game better.

[xaviersr]

Hello,
I'm playing with France. After the invasion of Spain, Switzerland and Italy declares war on France for this reason. How is it possible that two satellites of the French Empire can declare war on France?

[PhilThib]

This is not possible in theory, please send us the save.