aycee
Conscript
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Confused about stack CP

Sat May 07, 2016 4:24 pm

Hello,

Just got the game and I'm trying to understand the CP structure.
The manual says that a stack can't get more than 16 CP from leaders
I can't figure out how some stacks have 25 or 27 CP points
Now if I count all CP points from all leaders I get a different number
For example "Garde Imperiale" 12CP from Bessi, 12 CP from Mortier, 4CP from Songis des Courbons, 4CP from Jean-Joseph d'Hautpoul and 2CP from signal, which give me 32, but stack says 25. If I only count max of 16CP from leaders then I can add 2CP from signal and get to 18
I must be doing something wrong here so if anyone can explain or point me to a place where it is explained it would be much appreciated.

vicberg
AGEod Grognard
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Sat May 07, 2016 4:44 pm

Each power is limited by total number of divisions they may field. For everyone except France, they only get 10 division, no corps and their armies are simply all the 3 star (and 2 star) leaders they may have. They don't get to designate "Army" or "Corp" commanders. France starts with multiple "armies" having multiple "corps" with each corp/army having multiple divisions. A 3 star leader may have anywhere from 20 CP to 26 CP depending on if you've added signal corp or have another leader with the stacking trait which increase the CP of the stack. True "Army" and "Corp" commanders have their CP increased. Leaders who are hotheads may reduce the total CP of the stack. Check all the traits of all the support units and leaders.

1 star (or 2 star) leaders may become divisional commanders. All other powers are greatly limited by this until they can enact army reforms, then they get true armies/corps/and a LOT more divisions. Divisions are formed by taking a leader and combining it with a divisional unit. Divisional units are built by France only in the beginning but other powers may build divisional units later in game. For everyone else (and for France if they build brigades), you take a leader and enable divisional command, select the brigades you wish to combined together and add them to the divisional leader. By doing this, all the individual briagdes, which have their own command costs, combine into a single divisional units which has a greatly reduced overall command cost. So you can have 4-5 (or more) divisions within the same 3 star leader (for everyone except France) or French corp or French Army. Each division is made up of multiple brigades.

So if you don't create divisions, each brigade has it's own cost of say 3 CP each. Maybe 6-7 individual brigades under a 3 star leader. By forming divisions, each division costs 4 CP comprised of multiple brigades up to divisional limit of 18 elements. So 4-5 brigades costing 15 CP combined into a division division costing 4 CP and limited by a max of 18 elements in the division.

So you combine brigades into divisions. You can build divisional units (pre built division) and can even combine brigades into them (since they have 13-14 elements and can fit another brigade). You place divisions under corps or 2 or 3 star leaders for powers that can't field corps.

And that's your CP structure.

oho
Corporal
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Sun May 08, 2016 10:27 am

Playing Prussia I cant build divisional leaders for almost all 1 star generals although i habe 10 divisions left. Why?

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arsan
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Sun May 08, 2016 11:23 am

Hi!

Max CP (16 for a ***, 12 for a ** if i recall correctly) can be doubled up if the stack is an army or a corps.
Then the CP may go up or down because of the leaders and special units abilities. Check their tooltips.

Regarding divisional commanders, the leader must be active for you to be able to put him in charge of a division. If the leaders has low strategic rating this can take several turns.

Regards!

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