DrPostman wrote:He's in the game.
Projekt Pasha wrote:When and where does he appear? Because it is already 1916 and he has yet to make an appearance.
DrPostman wrote:I don't know for sure. I just know he's in the game because I helped research
the German general stats and he was one of those I looked into. He's listed as
Colmar Freiherr von der Goltz, or some combination of that.
Projekt Pasha wrote:I know he is in the files, but I am asking if anyone knows when or where he appears in game. He wouldn't be the only leader in the files not in the game, and the Ottoman Generals are kinda screwy anyway. Just as a few examples of many Osman Fuad Pasha isn't in the game at all, Nazim Pasha is in game despite having been assassinated in broad daylight and in front of god and everybody during Enver Pasha's coup in 1913, and Nurettin Pasha is a three star general despite having been a colonel in 1914.
Merlin wrote:That's why they did it that way.
Late Ottoman history is fun.
ajarnlance wrote:All Ottoman history is very interesting isn't it. I'm hoping to take them to new glory when they join me in my current CP pbem
Merlin wrote:The most direct impact on Ottoman economy was the massive debts incurred by Britain and France. It may be geopolitics, but the Ottoman response was to suspend debts and join the CP. Suspending debts was the obvious move. I would kind of feel sorry for them, but it's conditional on the systems we have today. That's why I call bullshit and conform to the understanding they were truly corrupt, because they really had no intention to pay after 1915.
Kotik wrote:I saw a Goltz after I played the first card of "new generals" in 1914 but that dont mean you will get him as quickly as I did.
DrPostman wrote:That's because he's a German general. He will be under his actual name, not
the title the Ottomans gave him.
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