Michael T
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Losses?

Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:41 pm

I have supected something is wrong with the tally of POW's and Lost men for some time OR perhaps I just don't understand it. I asked a question on the forums some time back if Lost men = POW's plus Casualties, and was answered yes, but clearly from my example below this is not the case. Can someone explain how the losses are tallied or is there a bug here. I have only looked at these files from the CSA perspective as this is an ongoing PBEM and I don't want to peak at my opponents stuff.

If you look at the file for Late August the USA has 1700 men as POW's and a total of 9840 Lost men.

In Early September a large garrison at Alexandria surrendered and the numbers of POW's go up to 13400, but the Lost men now shows 11361.

So if the Lost men was a total of POW's and Casualties it would be ~24K. So clearly it is not a combined tally.

So does this mean that in order to determine the total loss of troops you have to add POW's and Lost men together?
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:58 pm

In other games its more complex.

PoWs is relatively easy, mostly gained from sieges.

Losses on the combat report I believe include both dead (ie those that appear in the ledger) and wounded. I'm reasonably sure the latter are lost to your effective armies but am pretty sure they don't show in the loss reports. I tested this in PoN game over a quiet year - just a few colonial battles - and it was clear that the sum of losses on the battle reports exceeded the sum in my graveyard (makes sense if you play Pride of Nations).
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:16 pm

I am just talking about the F8 screen. Not the battle reports. I would really like Pocus to explain the tallies on the F8 screen. As I am yet to figure it out.

Does Lost = KIA/MIA/WIA or some other combination. Do we then add POW's to arrive at a Grand Total for Lost troops?

Sometimes I have tracked the losses and it all made sense. Then at other times a completely unfathomable result occurs and I scratch my head.

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Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:09 pm

POW should be a subset of losses. I don't know how you got this 13400 though. It will be difficult taking a look before well in January on that though.
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Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:37 pm

About 12000 surrendered who were besieged at Alexandria. They were not added to the total lost, but show up as POW's.

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