CTD during AI turns etc

[MikeWaterloo]

I didnt have any problems playing Civil War mod although I only played it for a short while. I am now trying the main campaign as Japan but get frequent crashes. I can go back and continue but crashed every few minutes which is very frustrating. Not sure how to post txt so forgive this post. I use Windows 8, bought directly from Matrix. Would like to play without constant interruptions. Please help. It is copied to my D drive..it says to send Ilog txt but I do not see a txt file named such. Searched the forums but can't find my answer.. please direct me if possible. Lots of memory and a good video card..seems to crash mostly on AI turns. Also was able to get a repeat crash when I tried to move a daimyo to an island...
7:23:53 PM (Reporting) User: MIchael Computer: ASUS-PC
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7:24:01 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.GetMediaInfo: Unable to find MediaInfo for image: ledger_back
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7:26:25 PM (Reporting) TMain, CreateForm OK
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7:26:25 PM (Reporting) Game Engine version: PON 1.03e full
7:26:25 PM (Reporting) TGameSim.OnLoadGame_FilePicked D:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\1850 GC2\1850 GC~JAP.trn :Turn file loaded, # of entries: 312599
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7:26:25 PM (Reporting) TSlaveThing.SetBitmap: Unable to find MediaInfo for image: InspectorImg_JAP
7:26:25 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 10
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7:26:25 PM (Reporting) THost.ProcessTurn Host file loaded, # of entries: 776289
7:26:25 PM (Reporting) THost.ProcessTurn Starting hosting of turn 2411 - 1850, Early June
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7:26:25 PM DoUnitsSpawningFromAbi 0.0 µs
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7:26:25 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 109 Gaining Faction: Hannover
7:26:25 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 119 Gaining Faction: Holstein
7:26:25 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 120 Gaining Faction: Holstein
7:30:47 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 5493 ms
7:30:47 PM (Reporting) Ended Hosting Phase 64857 ms
7:30:47 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.GetMediaInfo: Unable to find MediaInfo for image: colstatus7
7:30:47 PM (Reporting) TThing.SetBitmap: Unable to find MediaInfo for image: ColStatus7.png
7:30:47 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.GetMediaInfo: Unable to find MediaInfo for image: &piechart&
7:30:47 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.GetMediaInfo: Unable to find MediaInfo for image:
7:30:47 PM (Reporting) TThing.SetBitmap: Unable to find MediaInfo for image: yourFormBack.png
7:30:47 PM (Reporting) TThing.SetBitmap: Unable to find MediaInfo for image:
7:35:09 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 11
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7:35:09 PM (Reporting) Host: Starting AIs.
7:35:09 PM (Reporting) Host: AI files done. 13519 ms
7:35:09 PM (Reporting) THost.ProcessTurn Host file loaded, # of entries: 846478
7:35:09 PM (Reporting) THost.ProcessTurn Starting hosting of turn 2412 - 1850, Late June
7:35:09 PM MakeSupplyDistribution 7183543.1 µs
7:35:09 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 0
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7:35:09 PM DoUnitsSpawningFromAbi 0.0 µs
7:35:09 PM Check Research 2568494.0 µs
7:35:09 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 109 Gaining Faction: Hannover
7:35:09 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 119 Gaining Faction: Holstein
7:35:09 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 120 Gaining Faction: Holstein
7:35:09 PM [Error ] THost.PostHostProcess Exception caught: Violation d'accès à l'adresse 750DE223 dans le module 'SHELL32.dll'. Lecture de l'adresse A3FFFFBF DebugStep: 350
7:35:09 PM [Critical ] TGroup.pStartRegion 0 72 not on main map
7:35:09 PM [Critical ] TGameSim.ExportMilitary Exception caught, ExportStep: Group hint Rebels 0 72 Violation d'accès à l'adresse 0041CCAD dans le module 'PON.exe'. Lecture de l'adresse 00000000
7:35:09 PM [Critical ] TGameSim.ExportData Exception caught, ExportStep: Military Opération de pointeur incorrecte

[sagji]

By Civil War mod do you mean the Civil War DLC (expansion)

Shell32 is an odd place to be crashing. You could try adding an exception to your real time AV for the folder D:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN as sometimes the real time scan can cause issues with reading / writing files. You say it generally crashes in the AI's turn - is it always about the same place? Do the log files look similar?

[MikeWaterloo]

Yes, I mean the civil war dlc...was fine. It crashes before AI finishes its turn and also crashed twice when I moved a Daimyo from a ship to Okinawa..so I just stopped doing that . I am not very computer literate so not sure how to do what u suggest..this is the host log I believe, as the ilog it asked me to post I did not have.

[Exsecratus Sicarius]

I am also crashing a lot as Japan. Honestly, it's the only nation I play..or try to play. And the crashes are very much random.

I am unable to determine why the crash occurs nor have I tried to troubleshoot because my laptop will not update the GPU driver. I understand that all drivers should be current, and since in my case they are not, I don't troubleshoot PoN. There is a warning that pops up indicating that my card is not supported by the current driver, and despite my authority to install the driver, it will not install.

So when I get a new computer, I will attempt PoN again and see where it goes from there.

[numdydar]

[ATTACH]24234[/ATTACH]I have the same issue as Japan. Game crashes after a few turns. Then I resume the game from the main screen, play for a few turns and then crash again. Attached is the mainlog file.

[numdydar]

Again a crash. This time a popup that stated a critical error has occured and to send you the save game and log file. So here they are. This is a DIFFERENT log file than the one in my post above btw.

[Jonathan Pollard]

If anyone would like to play Japan without so many crashes, Japan is now available in the PoN Conflict in Europe Redux multiplayer game, it's 1881 in that game now. I don't think the previous Japan players reported any crashes while playing Japan.