BOR ; First AJE Expansion

[DanSez]

Yes, sorry I was confused with a link to purchase the AJE game - Coming soon, but not soon enough??? ahahah
tks

[Franciscus]

BOR is going to be released on 29 January - next week.

Regards

[paulopanz]

The solution could be: standalone or merged install if you have or not previous game .... so the loyal costumer will have the whole scenario collection in one hand and the occasional one, interested only to a part of the game (es. the punic wars) hasn't to buy all the games ....

[Durk]

Well Boomer, I do disagree. This is an excellent game however it is packaged. Any price is a modest cost for such well done historical gaming. My goodness, what have you paid so far.
I suspect less than any other game. I do agree that it would be nice to have all the AJE variations in a single folder/game start, but this should be easily accomplished by our fine hosts.

[PhilThib]

Price has absolutely nothing to do with the decision, because we shall sell it exactly at the same price as it was originally planned (i.e. around 20€ , as was decided by the AJE team months ago.

On the contrary, by making it a standalone, we don't "force" those players who don't want to buy AJE to get it to play Birth of Rome...and those who already bought AJE won't pay a higher price, because it is what we intended to charge anyway. This was why we sold the first AJE 'cheap' for a new release, as we always planned to sell the next games in the serie at the same level of price...

[PhilThib]

OOOPS...

Boomer, sorry, I erased your post by mistake while I was killing bots (I forgot to untick your post). My apologies. Can you repost it again?

[Surtur]

But will this stand alone expansion integrate with an existing AJE install?

[Leibst]

BOR is installed in a new Folder as a new game, instead of AJE you will have BOR.
Im sure you can copy the scens files of AJE into the Scens Folder of BOR and will run perferctly. In this way you have all the scenaries together in just one game.

[Surtur]

That I wanted to know, I hope it works as easy as you say it does. I just like to load up one game and scroll through all the possible scenarios

[Cubby]

Price has absolutely nothing to do with the decision, because we shall sell it exactly at the same price as it was originally planned (i.e. around 20€ , as was decided by the AJE team months ago.

On the contrary, by making it a standalone, we don't "force" those players who don't want to buy AJE to get it to play Birth of Rome...and those who already bought AJE won't pay a higher price, because it is what we intended to charge anyway. This was why we sold the first AJE 'cheap' for a new release, as we always planned to sell the next games in the serie at the same level of price...

This is good. I think hat BoR will interest me more than AJE!!!

[anibal barca]

BOR is installed in a new Folder as a new game, instead of AJE you will have BOR.
Im sure you can copy the scens files of AJE into the Scens Folder of BOR and will run perferctly. In this way you have all the scenaries together in just one game.

then,what pacht update installs 1.02 also?
i have the alea jacta est,but i want all scenarios in a same game,not in two different games.

[heyhellowhatsnew]

So I am confused. I own AJE, when I buy this will I be able to boot AJE and have the BOR scenarios included? Are they merged for AJE users? I ask this because the Scourge of War series had a standalone, but if you bought the prior products, the standalone scenarios were included when you booted up the original game.

Also, how much will it cost? Thanks so much! I Love AJE! I just wanted to get more information because what has been said is difficult to follow. I would appreciate some clarification!

[Franciscus]

Current Official status is simple, PhilThib has already said it:

- BOR will be a standalone game, with it's own install path, desktop shortcut, etc, and will not need AJE to work, of course.
- AJE current version is 1.02. AJE patches are NOT for BOR
- current owners of AJE, if they buy BOR, will have two games: BOR (with BOR scenarios) and AJE (with AJE scenarios)
- current available DLCs (Spartacus and Cantabrian wars) are meant for AJE
- the price of BOR will be around 20€, as it always was supposed to be, even when we planned it as an expansion

Regards

[Gferreq]

Come on guys!!, I think its not that difficult!!. Lets wait a few days and enjoy!!
And lets support people who works hard doing their best. These are faboulous games at good price.

[vonRocko]

Thank you Franciscus, That's all I wanted know.

[heyhellowhatsnew]

Current Official status is simple, PhilThib has already said it:

- BOR will be a standalone game, with it's own install path, desktop shortcut, etc, and will not need AJE to work, if course.
- AJE current version is 1.02. AJE patches are NOT for BOR
- current owners of AJE, if they buy BOR, will have two games: BOR (with BOR scenarios) and AJE (with AJE scenarios)
- current available DLCs (Spartacus and Cantabrian wars) are meant for AJE
- the price of BOR will be around 20€, as it always was supposed to be, even when we planned it as an expansion

Regards

I understand. I will buy this still but its a shame that AJE and BOR will be separate like that. It's just more convienent for owners of AJE to have them both combined. But I will still buy it! Great work and thank you

[FENRIS]

A little question : after BOR, i suppose it will be the second punic war in project, and this campaign will be a DLC for BOR ?

talking simply : all the scenarios "Empire" will go to AJE and the others "time of Roman Republic" (Punics wars for example) will go to BOR ?

[PhilThib]

A little question : after BOR, i suppose it will be the second punic war in project, and this campaign will be a DLC for BOR ?

talking simply : all the scenarios "Empire" will go to AJE and the others "time of Roman Republic" (Punics wars for example) will go to BOR ?

Not decided yet. The AJE team plan is to alternate releases. They will produce 'Empire' packs, 'Republic' packs and even 'Regional' packs (i.e. Rome against a single enemy over many different times). The next one will be a regional pack (on AJE).

[DON]

Considering that the price of AJE was only $20.00 I have absolutely no problem with four new scenarios packaged as a separate game for the same price. As long as the product is of the same high quality as AJE it strikes me as a bargain. I am quite willing to pay a price point of $5.00 per scenario for what are effectively new scenarios of the game system. If it helps bring new players into the fold to package BOR as a stand alone product, all the better.

[Franciscus]

Considering that the price of AJE was only $20.00 I have absolutely no problem with four new scenarios packaged as a separate game for the same price. As long as the product is of the same high quality as AJE it strikes me as a bargain. I am quite willing to pay a price point of $5.00 per scenario for what are effectively new scenarios of the game system. If it helps bring new players into the fold to package BOR as a stand alone product, all the better.

Not 4 but 5 (or really 6) scenarios in BOR
- 3rd Samnite War
- Ager Gallicus
- Pyrrhic War
- First Punic War (full "campaign" starting in -264)
- First Punic War (shorter scenario , starting in -256)
- Mercenary War (struggle between Carthage and her former mercenarios)

Regards

[Grim.Reaper]

Sorry if this was already answered, but I couldn't find it. Will BOR and future games only be sold via Matrix/Slitherine game site going forward or will you still be able to purchase it from Ageod and places like Gamersgate?

[Taillebois]

I think part of one earlier question by someone remains unanswered.

Having installed AJE and BOR, can one copy the scenario files from BOR to AJE and thus have all the scenarios in one game? Or vice versa in fact, or both!

There's so much scope for new scenarios covering all this ancient era that I look forward to AGEOD becoming a scenario factory. Just churn them out boys. I agree with another post that $5 seems OK, or perhaps 2 for $5 if they are shorter ones.

[PJJ]

Sorry if this was already answered, but I couldn't find it. Will BOR and future games only be sold via Matrix/Slitherine game site going forward or will you still be able to purchase it from Ageod and places like Gamersgate?

I hope we can continue to buy games and DLC from the Ageod site. I'd rather give my money directly to the developers without any middlemen "robbing" part of the profits.

[PhilThib]

Ageod will be the main place of purchase of our future games. And, in practice, future DLC's should be only at Ageod's too

[Wiking]

Any ideas floating around for the DLC/expansion after BOR? I'd give my left arm for the invasion of Vandal North Africa.

[Soulstrider]

Any ideas floating around for the DLC/expansion after BOR? I'd give my left arm for the invasion of Vandal North Africa.

AFAIK, there are packs on the works for the wars in Dacia, Germania, Brittania and Parthia (the one I am most looking for, dunno if wars vs Sassanids are also included in this one, I hope so since I love the Sassanids), also there is a mod on the works about the Aurelian Wars.

[vaalen]

I hope we can continue to buy games and DLC from the Ageod site. I'd rather give my money directly to the developers without any middlemen "robbing" part of the profits.

I could not agree more.

[vaalen]

Any ideas floating around for the DLC/expansion after BOR? I'd give my left arm for the invasion of Vandal North Africa.

If they had a Belisarius DLC, they could have scenarios not only for the invasion of Vandal North Africa, but Ostrogoth Italy, the Persian wars of Justinian, the Bulgar invasion, and they could even tie them together in one great campaign... Archery would be much more important that it is in the more ancient versions, but think of how rich a game that would be!

[anibal barca]

others epoch also can be very good as alexander the great campaings,assirians with famous assirian kings asurbanipal,sargon.
in the roman epoch second and third punic wars,macedonian wars,cesar campaign in gaul,syrian seleucid war roman with hannibal barca as mercenary general.
germany campaign teoutoburg forest.

[Franciscus]

Being a part of the AJE team, I can say that many of the proposed campaigns or scenarios here discussed are indeed either in the works, planned or at least possible.

Much will depend, though, on the relative success of the upcoming and future releases...

Best regards