darzininkas
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Battle explanation

Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:04 am

Hello,

I am playing multilayer campaign. Received turn and watched replay and when checked information panel.
In replay i saw, that my French army advanced from Aldenberg to Dusseldorf and opponents army retreated from this location. So there is final disposition.

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In the information panel, I saw, that 2 battles was fought and both is lost by France (losing 3 VP in total)

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After the battles, there is information, that some French generals was congratulated for victory and some blamed for defeats

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What happened?
Why the winers retreat and looser take the field and congratuleted for victory?
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von Sachsen
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Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:56 am

This happend very often actually. I think it depends not so much on who wins the battle (though I've never seen someone be blamed if they won) but on their performance during the battle. If an officer's brigade breaks and and runs during a battle, they are likely to loose seniority, likewise, if they instead performe well and destroy some enemy units, they are likely to gain it. Of course this is just my understanding and anyone else is free to correct any mistakes. :)

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Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:11 am

That's right. That would be too simplistic to say 'losing side, all officers get blamed', 'winning side, all officers get congratulated'. Here you can imagine that even in a defeat, an officer performed well (rear guard action etc.).
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darzininkas
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Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:54 am

I see the point to congratulate officer after lost battle if they performed well in it (for ex. saved from total defeat and so on), but do they lost the battle in the first place if they took the field and enemy retreated? I understand, that they could achieve this by sacrificing too much, but for this situation we have definition „Piric victory“ . Piric - but still a victory.

From general logic point of view I expect, that:

French attack – French loose (information panel displayed) – French retreat – Some French officers congratulated/blamed for actions
Or
French attack – French win (information panel displayed) – Hanover/English retreat – Some French officers congratulated/blamed for actions

Situation, which happened in the game, is a mixture of above:
French attack – French loose (information panel displayed) – Hanover/English retreat – Some French officers congratulated/blamed for actions

So, do I provide enough information to receive explanation about Dusseldorf battles?

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