hey guys, i am new to pride of nations and i am playing prussia.
So far i am understanding how most of the different tabs work in the game but i hardly make any gold or capital. i dumped a lot of my products on the market and i have merchant ships in the America's and Europe. It is currently 1853, i am just thinking i need to wait a few more years before i get a lot of cash, started to build luxury factories and chemical factories?
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loki100
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not sure who you are playing, so this is a bit generic.
At the start, building up both state and private capital is a slow process. What you need to do is to work between the F4, F11, sell and buy tabs. Look at your stockpiles, esp for agricultural. If they are increasing, or even static, you can shut stuff down for a while (you can use the B screen here as that will tell if you a given product is over-supplied internationally). That will allow you to save PC for production - think of it as the game's model for primitive capital accumulation. Second have a think, for some items you pay less PC to import than to produce. If so shut down your own production and rely on imports.
In this respect a balance of payments deficit (ie import more than you export) is fine if its matched by PC from domestic sales. There's a post in my AAR with a diagram and discussion where I try to set out how this lot interlink.
State cash, as long as population contentment is going up by 0.4 or so every time its reported, then, early game, up your taxes a bit. Try not to overdo the tax on shipping (that will harm both your ability to buy and sales) or tariffs (hit to international relations).
In general, its a good idea not to over-build early. The game tends to see global shortages of things like coal, sometimes wood, into the late 1850s. Then it tends to be things like manufactured goods.
edit - remember to put trade fleets around the globe. They not only help you to buy but it means that states can buy from you, if you have a trade fleet off their coast. Sometimes, early on, there can be gaps in the flow of goods rather than simple demand and supply
At the start, building up both state and private capital is a slow process. What you need to do is to work between the F4, F11, sell and buy tabs. Look at your stockpiles, esp for agricultural. If they are increasing, or even static, you can shut stuff down for a while (you can use the B screen here as that will tell if you a given product is over-supplied internationally). That will allow you to save PC for production - think of it as the game's model for primitive capital accumulation. Second have a think, for some items you pay less PC to import than to produce. If so shut down your own production and rely on imports.
In this respect a balance of payments deficit (ie import more than you export) is fine if its matched by PC from domestic sales. There's a post in my AAR with a diagram and discussion where I try to set out how this lot interlink.
State cash, as long as population contentment is going up by 0.4 or so every time its reported, then, early game, up your taxes a bit. Try not to overdo the tax on shipping (that will harm both your ability to buy and sales) or tariffs (hit to international relations).
In general, its a good idea not to over-build early. The game tends to see global shortages of things like coal, sometimes wood, into the late 1850s. Then it tends to be things like manufactured goods.
edit - remember to put trade fleets around the globe. They not only help you to buy but it means that states can buy from you, if you have a trade fleet off their coast. Sometimes, early on, there can be gaps in the flow of goods rather than simple demand and supply
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PoN Manufacturing Italy; A clear bright sun
RoP The Mightiest Empires Fall
WIA Burning down the Houses; Wars in America; The Tea Wars
PoN Manufacturing Italy; A clear bright sun
RoP The Mightiest Empires Fall
WIA Burning down the Houses; Wars in America; The Tea Wars
One other thing:
Just because you offer it for sale, doesn't mean that someone will buy it. Most of the screens assume that you will sell 100% of what you offer, and buy 100% of what you ask for. Verify what you are actually buying/selling, and make sure that you are creating a small surplus.
As Prussia, you get a huge state funds increase when you absorb the german minors.
Remember to be patient (this game requires a lot of it).
Just because you offer it for sale, doesn't mean that someone will buy it. Most of the screens assume that you will sell 100% of what you offer, and buy 100% of what you ask for. Verify what you are actually buying/selling, and make sure that you are creating a small surplus.
As Prussia, you get a huge state funds increase when you absorb the german minors.
Remember to be patient (this game requires a lot of it).
Remember - The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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loki100 wrote:Sometimes, early on, there can be gaps in the flow of goods rather than simple demand and supply
That's a big one. One of the nice things about playing GBR, as I am, is trade fleets all over the place. Most countries don't even have one, never mind many. You can generate tax revenue buying and selling things that you don't need more of yourself.
Though it would be nice if there was some indication of the actual volumes of global aggregate supply and demand. Once the price of something gets down to the minimum it could still be worth trading if buy and sell sides are balanced so you can move inventory, not so much if sell volume is 10x the buy, but as it stands all you can do is guess.
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Aslan Stark
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yeah i have been looking at all the other threads and it seems i have a lot to learn lol. i find that this game takes more time then the total war series which i am use to... your info was alot of help. If i have any question, could i get in touch with any experience prussian players? Also i find that i cant do much per turn because it is such a long game , so it would be normal if i go through turns without doing anything other then read on important news?
Excellent advice from loki, Jim, and SonofAGhost. I just love how helpful people are on this forum.
I would just add this. Luxuries, when you can afford to make them, will help your income, both private capital and state funds, and seem to be always in demand on the world market. The same is true of gold, gems, and usually tropical fruit. It is also a good thing to buy items you need from other countries, as it helps their economies, and increases demand globally. But only when you can afford it, after building up your economy as the others have suggested.
I would just add this. Luxuries, when you can afford to make them, will help your income, both private capital and state funds, and seem to be always in demand on the world market. The same is true of gold, gems, and usually tropical fruit. It is also a good thing to buy items you need from other countries, as it helps their economies, and increases demand globally. But only when you can afford it, after building up your economy as the others have suggested.
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