political blockade

[Jamitar]

okay so I've got 2 problems:

1/ im germany and got through the austro prussian war well. even on the event it says there would be good relations. obviously at the end were still in a very ugly relationship. soi cant ask for defensive aliance. fine, then i'll have to pass from -100 to 100. its only after 10 turns or so i realse im not getting any better relations. obviously if every **** empire keeps mobilising at each turn for a -5 relationship each, there is gonna be any other number than -100 on F9! i cant make 5 relationship bonus to austria each turn and plus a profit! solutions would be lower effect of partial mobilization, program AI for less extravagant use (they dont even get revolts! whats the point of militancy anyway!) or take it out competely. anyway after 5 uses the effects were starting to get pretty invisible.

2/ with the turks and belgium im on good terms. they both accepted mutual passage and defensive treaty. NO EFFECT! i cant get my soldiers through belgium nor land near jerusalem, and theyre defenitely not in alliance (it doent even say on F9). even austria when he was my ally didnt get a cassus beli against belgium and russia when they declared war!

please repair an as I saw somewhere else, add more diplomatic options. usually a request passage comes with money payment.what about coalition? i cant ask a joint hand in hand fight against france to prussia. didnt seem uncommon in other similar games to me! and more others.obviously Im not the only person wanting this and propably the staff/team would have thought of it too. but ayway last priority over the glitched ones.

hoping at least one of my problems will be fixed/ found a solution to.
thank if your still reading

[yellow ribbon]

please, give them also the letter of the patch you are playing and whether you started the game under another patch.

i just figured, that it is close to a MUST-have to start over the whole game with the patch "L"
all my older save files from other patches either give me critical errors again and again, or the new effects have broken / do not work as intended in old games.

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for partial mobilization, it should been fixed already with the patch "I", that it is only available once in a year for a nation.

for militancy, it was a HUGE problem in democratic / liberal nations in the last patch ("I").
I am happy that they fixed it proper, i can stay now under 5% with the USA GC.
Anyway, its a civil problem and effecting happiness, thus also productivity and there are many steps before open riots happen.
in 1870, i was able to run a game with 54% militancy, half my economy and all foreign investments under social disorder or strike... so i am not suprised, that you dont see obvious impacts.

for better relations, true, it works very slow. the local support option is much more important for good relations.
Again, this was revised in the patch "L" and has now very acceptable outcomes for it covers now twice as many turns, before it need to be used again.

[Jamitar]

errr.... I found on the public beta patch 1.01 and that the only patch I found. I downloaded from a forum because when i went to "update" it sent me to pride of nations summary with not a sentence talking about patchs.

by the way at that time i was playing great britain. I saw it say i would need to restart but still pushed my inexistant luck. after 4-6 turns withouth any special problems I came across te problem of memory I talked bout on another tread. I lost all saves and indeed I had to restart of scratch but now I am germany , new game since the patch and should have no bugs concerning it.
I heard of patch 1.01 even 1.02. but "I3 and "L"? huh? where to find it?

[yellow ribbon]

yeah auto update is broken somehow, redirects you to the paradox page. there it needs a good eye or knowledge how they deal with updates at all.

i did mean the letter of the update (it is still beta series of 1.01 and 1.01 was the online basis for selling the game)

if you start the game again, there should be a 1.01 with a letter in the bottom right corner (i guess)

as i wrote, it kind of important for them to know... something you described might be solved or changed already...

PS:

ah, that explains a lot...

patch "H" and "I" you can find in this forum

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=21881

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=22268

for patch "L" i gave a link to the paradox forum and the manual what you need to do there... more i cant do

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=22564

[Jamitar]

*o* but before I make a stupid mistake (again) witch one(s) do download? each?

[yellow ribbon]

for patch 1.01 "L"

you need to register as i described it step by step in the thread...

[Jamitar]

thanks a lot for your help till now you were tons more helpful than I could expect from a forum. I am downloading the patch, and sorry as I am about the fact of waiting to restart all the turn over again im hoping i'll be worth it
thanks again!

(from now on I wont hesitate posting al my problems)

[Jamitar]

by the way does patch L give me the features of "H" and"I" or do I need to download them seperatly?
cause that change that made it possible to pass through enemy controled land even though its legaly someone who didnt give you right of passage seems quite a need of mine

[Jamitar]

hehe sorry for overwhelming you but this is a oportunity to fix all my bugs. so now my problem is that constantly when invade belgium ( dont look at me he constantly declares war for no good reason, or maybe because flanders got liberated by nederlands who was extendedly claimed by me) but when I ask for luxembourg next turn they cheat me huge! the turn after I sent, it say line 1"peac treaty sent to belgium etc
and on line 2? peace treaty is no longer valid. huh? okay fine thats how ya wana play? im gonna invade you till 1920! only the next turn I find myself at peace with belgium and they keep luxembourg! thats 100% cheating me out of the benefits!! (thats how I ended up with good relation towards belgium, all the war score when to good relations with them)

[Franciscus]

by the way does patch L give me the features of "H" and"I" or do I need to download them seperatly?
cause that change that made it possible to pass through enemy controled land even though its legaly someone who didnt give you right of passage seems quite a need of mine

You only need to download the latest patch (now, L)

Regards

[yellow ribbon]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh... i feel me so exploited, so USED...

1.) all parts of patches should be included in the next patch of the series, so you need only the last one "L"

2.) start over with the patch a new campaign... AIs behavior regarding declaration of silly wars was changed, it should not happen that way. if it does...

...you might open another thread

the modified diplomacy too

it could also be a question of too few victory points, so you cant claim the region

and finally: in the main menu is an "option" field, open it, activate extended claims

but be aware, perhaps you would like to make a save of the game in case anything goes wrong by experimenting...

however, best advise, the "quick and dirty" one:

PATCH IT AND START AGAIN IN 1850

[Jamitar]

okay ill restart XD regarding the luxembourg problem, I alrady have extended claims (i was never known to like to be limited XD) and I had enough war score, thats what i was waiting for. anyway if you dont have enough war score you cant even send the offer.
might be a clue: when you go to liberate nations of belgium (considering like me tha nederlands already liberated flanders) it doesnt offer to liberate luxembourg but wallony. te capital is in walony, nd it is as far as Im concerned (i live in belgium, antwerp ) the root of the country, whatever the flemish might complain about.luxembourg is at present time a tiny country stuck between belgium ,germany (and possibly france), and is also know to have the best average income per individual worldwide.on the other hand their is also a region in wallony called luxembourg too. but its not any bigger or more important than, say lorraine for france and south east for england. developed but small and not that central. but guess maybe it wasnt the same in 1850 okay im done you can rest XD

P.S thats some long install process for the patch.it might take overnight.

[yellow ribbon]

"might be a clue: when you go to liberate nations of belgium (considering like me tha nederlands already liberated flanders) it doesnt offer to liberate luxembourg but wallony. te capital is in walony, nd it is as far as Im concerned (i live in belgium, antwerp ) the root of the country, whatever the flemish might complain"

first,

the problem that only capital cities could be liberated was again solved in the patches, just i dont know whether this is working for Belgium too

second...

Antwerpen? ik woon naast de Tabakvest, maar ik ben Duitser

for some years i lived at the Stijfselstraat...

next time just invite my to a coffee, damn it!!!

oh, yes, it was the root of the country, otherwise it couldnt be the rustbelt nowadays

[Jamitar]

XD lol coincidence, sometimes. I guess even gaming staffs and teams arent always american swedish or japanese XD

[yellow ribbon]

errrrr.... NO NO NO!

I AM NOT ONE OF THEM...

I am just a fellow gamer who prefers AGEOD forum for past trouble with Paradox some seven years ago...

just i do have a quasi-perfect memory, so i can tell you what was discussed earlier in the forum (if i read it) and so claim, why it is important to know / to use the patch

but in generally you are right...

AGEOD based in France

[Jamitar]

ah oke cest francais. well thanks for support lima is GREAT you were actually capable of fixing the turn time problem. but my first bug in lima is in 1851 end.

index. ************ index out of range. I get it first when I ordered my boarded troops to land on netherlands 1 turn before declaration of war. then secon when asked my boats t land troops in south africa. now I cant even click on my boat. results is im back to menu. i cant play great britain with my navy stuck on the thames river !! help? (again!!)

second problem. midway in generating files period between turns, I get:Tregions defs **** fulldebug too many iters (?) to be safe"

fulldebug should be my ingame nickname by now -_-

[Jamitar]

errrrr.... NO NO NO!

I AM NOT ONE OF THEM...

I am just a fellow gamer who prefers AGEOD forum for past trouble with Paradox some seven years ago...

just i do have a quasi-perfect memory, so i can tell you what was discussed earlier in the forum (if i read it) and so claim, why it is important to know / to use the patch

but in generally you are right...

AGEOD based in France

fellow gamers tend to be american japanese (and swedish?) too XD

[yellow ribbon]

misschien, maar niet op de Meir... !!!

never tried it, nor seen this before, cant help you this time...

[Jamitar]

lol had to come someday. my power to find bugs is too powerful x(

for both poblems?

[yellow ribbon]

"Tregions defs ****"

havent heard about that problem for weeks... and i dont use the other forum (more or less just for patches)

next time it happens, upload the mainlog-file here or at the paradox forums bug thread...

if its know, they will help you out

for the back to the main menu... do you have any else program running? any music player or something like this?

most times it happened last months, it was related to some problems with directX, not with the game itself

[Jamitar]

beeing a total zero in pc language and technicalitie, upload mainlog means nothing to me. in options category system I have problem logging checked.

and yes was listened to music. I always do and never saw a problem by e way its youtube I also have winrar and Programes and Features windows on but they hardly do anything. anyway I just closed them. thanks anyway

[yellow ribbon]

very probable that it is related to directX...

i even watch movies in an open window. but that needed some change in the program display.opt

having other windows open and directX using programs were a real nuisance the first couple of weeks, maybe you just encountered such a hickup

for next time (the mainlog would help the devs):

go to

HDD you installed the game to,

folder you installed the game to

/ pride of nation
/ VGN
/ logs

mainlog.txt

and upload it here or there

be aware, the mainlog is based on every games start, you DO HAVE to copy and upload it right after the breakdown to the main screen