Events again

[antoine1965]

i'm playing Entente and i note that sometimes Germany chooses Schliffen Plan and only one option german's navy sortie.
Is it correct or strange?

[Drakken]

Taking two options is not obligatory, and both player and AI can take one Option only to keep more cards to draw.

[Fastsnake]

That's a very strange choice in my opinion (I hate this IMHO friggin' thing!!).

[calvinus]

In fact it happens quite rarely.

[antoine1965]

two times in two games.........

i would agree with Draken but :

- some events give only a bonus like Good Moral 2/0 VN+5

- and if i could determine with precision how many events i can draw......

maybe is an Unintelligent Artificial?

[calvinus]

Try refreshing the AI cache: click the trashcan button in Options window. Let's see if your AI still adopts such choices.

[antoine1965]

i did it.

i tried 3 times and 2/3 Germany chooses only one option.
maybe AI choses an option and i can ' t see it.

i also note a problem with the option Volunteers for Russia.

In the text of the option events -3/0 and on the right -2/0.

I change the valor (-2 -> -3 like the others nations) in Data -> DB -> WarPlanTurnRules.csv and now i have a correct data .

[Drakken]

That's a very strange choice in my opinion (I hate this IMHO friggin' thing!!).

Aside from VaM and Events, all other Options decrease the number of drawn Event cards for the player.

[antoine1965]

sorry don't understand

[Drakken]

sorry don't understand

There is a cost for taking these Options.

If you look at the Options when you choose your Warplan, you will see that aside of "Events" and "Volunteers and Munitions", each Options takes away from you a number of drawn Event cards.

[antoine1965]

i'm ok with you but why Ai doesn 't choose Good Moral for the second option?

no cost and only a bonus 2/0.

i'm trying a new game and now AH only choose one option.

i'm a little fed up.........

[Drakken]

i'm ok with you but why Ai doesn 't choose Good Moral for the second option?

no cost and only a bonus 2/0.

i'm trying a new game and now AH only choose one option.

i'm a little fed up.........

Perhaps because it wants the bonus of that particular Options without losing too many Event cards by taking another one.

And even if it doesn't take "Good Morale", it doesn't make it a pushover. It's still an AI.

[antoine1965]

With the last patch, always bugs with the events



is it possible to know how are calculated the events drawn and kept ?

[calvinus]

It's a mistake in game texts, nothing dramatic.

The right value is that one printed on the right: -2 / 0.

[calvinus]

The error is only for Russia. It's quicker for me to change the rule from -2 to -3...

I'll do so.

[antoine1965]

i said it in a post.

and the way for the events?

[calvinus]

and the way for the events?

What do you mean?

-3 means you count -3 to the total of event cards to draw. It's cumulated with all other choices...

[antoine1965]

it's that understand readind the manuel but when i play i never have the correct result of events draw and events kept.

where can i find the way to calculate them?

[poweraxe]

Speaking of war-plans: is it working as designed that the historical war-plan of Austria-Hungary only gives 31 NW, as opposed to the 35 NW that the other nation's historical war-plans get? I'm asking, because the text in the WP description does say the NW should be 35. Could be a text error too I suppose.

[calvinus]

it's that understand readind the manuel but when i play i never have the correct result of events draw and events kept.

where can i find the way to calculate them?

The latest beta patch 1.08G contains a couple of fixes for this stuff.

Consider anyway this calculation taskes often into account also the choices done by your enemy.

[calvinus]

Speaking of war-plans: is it working as designed that the historical war-plan of Austria-Hungary only gives 31 NW, as opposed to the 35 NW that the other nation's historical war-plans get? I'm asking, because the text in the WP description does say the NW should be 35. Could be a text error too I suppose.

Surely yes. Consider the Austro-Hungarian empire is multi ethnical and cannot have the national cohesion of Germany, for instance...

[poweraxe]

That sounds like a logical explanation, thanks

[antoine1965]

Good evening

Of course the calculation takes into account the ennemy's choice and i made several experiences.

In the DB, i modified WarPlanTurnRules.csv. i turned all the events drawn/kept for all the nations to 0/0 and all wins and losses give by the plans and the options to 0 for all nations.

result = no event drawn no kept => result correct

Secondly i modified in the same file for France plan XVII the valor 8/2 that is the correct valor gives by the plan.

expected result = 8/2 no?

but i had :



i tried a second time and i had :



do you think it's correct?(for me not at all)

i made severals anothers tests for the option but may be for another post...

[calvinus]

Hello Antoine,

the text you see on the popup telegram-like window is a "static" text, not a "parametrical" text.

That's why you always see 8 / 2.

Check inseide the Modding/Game Texts.xls DB and you will find that text.

Thanks,
Calvinus.

[antoine1965]

hello

it's the fact that with all my modifications i mustn't have 10 events drawns and for the same file 18 no matter the text.

[calvinus]

hello

it's the fact that with all my modifications i mustn't have 10 events drawns and for the same file 18 no matter the text.

There's a secondary rule, that helps the Allies.

Great Britain, even if neutral, in Early August draws 10 event cards (1 may be kept) and gives them to France.

See TurnRules.xls/csv DB of the concerned scenario:

TR_NumberOfEventsDraw 1 1 TP_Events ENG 10,1
TR_DrawEventsBenefitingNation 1 100 TP_Events ENG FRA

So 10 out of 18 are somehow explained.

For the exceeding 8, are you sure you resetted all the TR_NumberOfEventsDraw parameters?

[antoine1965]

i read this rule in the boardgame .

but for the same file, i have two results differents 10 and 18.

is there a random test (no print in the boardgame and the manual)?

now i have to buy the game my trial is over.
thanks