Bertram
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NM, EP and VP not displaying

Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:59 pm

Hi,

In my pbem game I have a NM, VP and EP of 0 (in the left upper corner of the screen). This stays so over several turns. The VP in the ledger is also 0 for both sides (though the NM is 100 for both sides).

Even though the EP is diisplayed as 0 I can buy "stuff" from the ledger. So it seem a display problem.

Any solution>?


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Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:05 pm

What version?

Please zip saved game and post it here... :)
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Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:13 pm

I've also noticed that in the WIA ledger page, the VPs aren't listed, so I can't see, for example, that Montreal is worth more than Ft. Niagra. This is with the latest patch. Is this WAD?
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Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:13 pm

I am (we are) playing version 1.02b.

attached zip is the us trn and ord files (my opponent, andrew Lane is hosting). Let me know if you need more files.
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Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:01 am

Bertram wrote:I am (we are) playing version 1.02b.

attached zip is the us trn and ord files (my opponent, andrew Lane is hosting). Let me know if you need more files.


Going to need all files from the host that are in the save, plus the 'Backup1' subfolder with it's files too...

I'd strongly recommend update to 1.02c also. Should not affect your game. In fact, you will encounter several problems 'at sea' without it...
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Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:52 am

berto wrote:I've also noticed that in the WIA ledger page, the VPs aren't listed, so I can't see, for example, that Montreal is worth more than Ft. Niagra. This is with the latest patch. Is this WAD?

I thought that maybe I was imagining this, so I went to check all of AACW, NCP & WIA. It seems that only the last doesn't indicate each strategic town's and controlled objective's VPs on the Victory Points and Objectives page. The manual clearly indicates that Objective Cities earn/lose 1 to 3 VPs per turn, but nowhere on the VPO ledger page do I see a scenario-wide value, nor per-location values. Not seeing the VPs, having to guess at them, is not helpful in planning one's campaign, of course. And not seeing them on-screen (even if they are all 1) as in AACW & NCP seems a bit odd.

Again, is this WAD?
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berto wrote:I thought that maybe I was imagining this, so I went to check all of AACW, NCP & WIA. It seems that only the last doesn't indicate each strategic town's and controlled objective's VPs on the Victory Points and Objectives page. The manual clearly indicates that Objective Cities earn/lose 1 to 3 VPs per turn, but nowhere on the VPO ledger page do I see a scenario-wide value, nor per-location values. Not seeing the VPs, having to guess at them, is not helpful in planning one's campaign, of course. And not seeing them on-screen (even if they are all 1) as in AACW & NCP seems a bit odd.

Again, is this WAD?



Hmm. It's been that way since day 1. :bonk:

Now see what new eyes can see? :thumbsup:

Need to hear from Hok on this one.... :blink:
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lodilefty wrote:Now see what new eyes can see? :thumbsup:

Trust me. I can be very good at this sort of thing. (I have to be when debugging the 50,000 lines of code in my PIKT Project.)

As for the upcoming RoP, again, please don't shoot the messenger!
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Upgrade to 1.02c please

Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:20 pm

Bertram wrote:I am (we are) playing version 1.02b.

attached zip is the us trn and ord files (my opponent, andrew Lane is hosting). Let me know if you need more files.


No need for further files :)

In my installation of 1.02c, your values appear correctly on main screen and in ledger...
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:45 pm

It's gone again in 1.06.

I've also tried with the ad-interim fixes but it doesn't show up :(

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whitewolf1981 wrote:It's gone again in 1.06.

I've also tried with the ad-interim fixes but it doesn't show up :(


"It" is OK in mine. :)

Please, be more specific:
What are you not seeing? Where do you not see whatever "it" is? :confused:
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Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:17 am

berto wrote:I've also noticed that in the WIA ledger page, the VPs aren't listed, so I can't see, for example, that Montreal is worth more than Ft. Niagra. This is with the latest patch. Is this WAD?


berto wrote:I thought that maybe I was imagining this, so I went to check all of AACW, NCP & WIA. It seems that only the last doesn't indicate each strategic town's and controlled objective's VPs on the Victory Points and Objectives page. The manual clearly indicates that Objective Cities earn/lose 1 to 3 VPs per turn, but nowhere on the VPO ledger page do I see a scenario-wide value, nor per-location values. Not seeing the VPs, having to guess at them, is not helpful in planning one's campaign, of course. And not seeing them on-screen (even if they are all 1) as in AACW & NCP seems a bit odd.


That is what I'm referring to. Apologies for the confusion I created.

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Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:09 pm

whitewolf1981 wrote:That is what I'm referring to. Apologies for the confusion I created.


It never has in WIA, just as it never has in BoA.

We'll look at this for next patch, but no promises...
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