The Map/Names of Polish towns

[morvael]

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Original thread title: The Map/Names of Polish towns

Hello!

I have examined the Polish territory and I see several big (really big) and small mistakes there.

The major ones are with areas. No way you could have Podlasie west of Wisla (Vistula) river. Actually those terrains should be part of Mazowsze (Mazovia), whereas western part of Wolin (mistake here too, Wolin is an island on the Baltic, here it should by Wolyn - Wolhynia).
Also I think it would be better to call Gross Polen - Wielkopolska and Klein Polen - Malopolska. No need to use direct german translation.
There should be also some changes of ownership between eastern Mazowsze (Grodno is no way in Mazowsze), Bielorussia (Alytus should be Lietuva/Wilno) and Wilno.

As for the town/province names:
Warszawa - should be where Skierniewice are, with Skierniewice replacing Pruszkow and Sochaczew replacing Warszawa (really big mistake here, Warszawa is BEFORE the rivers Wisla and Bug join!
Lodz in that period was a small village not a city 10% smaller than Warszawa. Lodz became so big in the last 20 years of XIXth century!
Otwok (I live here ) - it's Otwock but the city was created in 1890's - before that it would be better to call the province Karczew after a city which existed from medieval times; part of Mazowsze
Siedice - Siedlce; part of Mazowsze
Przesmyl - Przemysl
Ostrolenka - Ostroleka

Lukow is to south-west of Terespol, while Lubartow is to south-east so it's better to change those names into something different. I will try to look for names.
Bialystock - Bialystok

I will try to look for more mistakes and provide a better structured propositon of fixes when I will install the game at home (I did this at work)

edit:

please take a look at the attached images, you can see by yourself how terribly Warszawa was misplaced...



Also to get information about the major towns, here are the departments of the Duchy:
- departament bydgoski (Bydgoszcz)
- departament kaliski (Kalisz)
- departament lomzynski (Lomza)
- departament plocki (Plock)
- departament poznanski (Poznan)
- departament warszawski (Warszawa)
- largest towns, not part of their "departament": Warszawa, Poznan, Kalisz, Torun
After the war with Austria (new):
- departament krakowski (Krakow)
- departament lubelski (Lublin)
- departament radomski (Radom)
- departament siedlecki (Siedlce)
- largest towns, not part of their "departament": Krakow, Lublin, Sandomierz.

Please take a note that the whole point of Napoleon's orders to construct a major fortress in Modlin was that it with conjuction with Warszawa (in correct place) allowed to control the movement between the rivers: lower Wisla, upper Wisla, Bug, Narew.

As for Modlin almost 20 000 workers worked on it and the fortress although not completed in 1812 withstood a siege of 36 000 Russians for 10 months in 1813. And it's not on the map!

Another edit: is there a way to make a good screenshot of the entire region at the most detailed scale without the need to make tens of screenshots and joining them by hand in Paint?

[Tirailleur]

Also I think it would be better to call Gross Polen - Wielkopolska and Klein Polen - Malopolska. No need to use direct german translation.

O.k., but as a part of Prussia you can call it Großpolen...

[morvael]

That's true, but in 1812 it would be different. Actually the misplacement of Podlasie or Warszawa is the real big error here.

edit: if the first scenario of the game deals with events of 1805 and the last of 1815 then for 8 (1807-1815) of those 10 years Wielkopolska would be used, not Gross Polen. So it's better I think. Germany is big enough

edit 2: I'm not one of the Poland-fanboys of other forum many of you know (pdx) but I'm concerned with accuracy and I think placing major cities and fortresses according to historical locations _should_ be fixed in NCP in order to make it (and NCP2 too) an even better game. Look at the line:


In reality it's Lodz->Skierniewice->Warszawa in a direct line from southwest to northeast. In game it was distorted to Lodz->Warszawa->Skierniewice in form of a "V" placed upside down. Of course as I said earlier Lodz should be removed althogether and replaced with some other name.

I love AGEOD and don't criticize them, I know it's hard to make such a large map and stay true to history, that's why we, players were asked for help and so I offer mine. If only I could make a big screenshot of entire Polish territory for easier checking.

[PhilThib]

As for Modlin almost 20 000 workers worked on it and the fortress although not completed in 1812 withstood a siege of 36 000 Russians for 10 months in 1813. And it's not on the map!

Yes it is, check the 1813 scenario...it's start besieged. The point is that many cities, because of technical constraints of the map engine, are not accurately located on the map... for instance, Modlin fortress "sprite" is located 50-75 km west of actual location... can't help, it's a technical problem tough to solve right now...

Thanks for the other info, we'll make it in the next map update

[Syt]

That's true, but in 1812 it would be different. Actually the misplacement of Podlasie or Warszawa is the real big error here.

edit: if the first scenario of the game deals with events of 1805 and the last of 1815 then for 8 (1807-1815) of those 10 years Wielkopolska would be used, not Gross Polen. So it's better I think. Germany is big enough

I agree that it's a difficult issue to solve - in any game that covers a time period in which the ownership of territories changed hands between nationalities of different languages (Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings are a lot worse in that regard due to the length of time period covered and I still recall the long feuds taking place on their boards on those issues ... especially about the Balkans).

IMO it would be best to have the name change when ownership changes. Stettin if controlles by Prussia, Szczecin if controlled by Poland. What if French control the same city, though? And won't it be too confusing for the player if the towns keep changing names all the time? Yes!

To solve this matter the best way would be to have only one map language (English being the most likely candidate, followed by French), or have double names "Stettin/Szczecin" which would, however, clutter the map and interface. A compromise might be to make it dependent on the scenario.

Issues like those sometimes make you wish our forefathers had waged less wars (though what would we play instead? ) or at least agreed on common town names.

[morvael]

Yes it is, check the 1813 scenario...it's start besieged. The point is that many cities, because of technical constraints of the map engine, are not accurately located on the map... for instance, Modlin fortress "sprite" is located 50-75 km west of actual location... can't help, it's a technical problem tough to solve right now...

Thanks for the other info, we'll make it in the next map update

I didn't have time to look at more scenarios, I have only opened the 1812 one and there was no fortress in Modlin. Actually if the province is in the correct spot I don't care if the fortress is shown 50 or 70km from it's real place because it doesn't influence the gameplay (it's still the same province). But placing Warszawa next to Plock, after Bug joins Wisla (not before) is really a major mistake

Please wait before including updates I will try to prepare them in a more coherent way and post here (when I'll have time).

@Syt - I agree, an ideal game engine would allow to change the names of regions/provinces/cities as they change ownership between countries The other option is to decide which name to use - either to have everything correct on the first date of the first scenario or the one used during most of the period covered by the scenarios. Another (for me the best) option is to use names in only one language (French/English) or native if no name is present in the main language.

Of course here again, Gross Polen is not as big error as placing Podlasie 400 km to the west

[PhilThib]

Please wait before including updates I will try to prepare them in a more coherent way and post here (when I'll have time).

I am eagerly awaiting the list...

[morvael]

Ok, I have painfully created a map of the region in one big file and will try to review it today. Also I will have many fixes for the Polish OOB (OdB) which is not accurate. I will try to post that data during weekend.

[Syt]

Of course here again, Gross Polen is not as big error as placing Podlasie 400 km to the west

Personally, I don't mind much, either way - Wielkopolska or Gross Polen, especially as there's so many angles and ways to look at this.

[morvael]

I'm working hard on it but the province layout is a great obstacle but I'm trying to use is "as it is" and fit city names and provinces as close as possible to historical.
<old map was here>

It's not ready yet so I'm not posting it in full.

[PhilThib]

Woaw...that's exactly the right thing I need...bravo

[morvael]

I have tried my best to fix the map, in some cases I may have made some mistakes for which I am sorry and if someone knows better, please correct me. In general I've tried to use names for cities/provinces that belonged to cities being a seat of local government and to have major cities of that period included plus having generally good relation between cities (x is to the north of y etc) but in some cases I may have failed.

The population of the cities is either found in sources for the period 1800-1810 or calculated as 50% of population from 1830.

In some cases the borders may give more territory to the Duchy than was in reality (like the area next to Bialystok) but this is compensated by borders in the west where it's opposite (area next to Bydgoszcz/Bromberg).

I am also in favour of using Polish names in Wielkopolska as this territory is the heart of Poland (with Malopolska and Mazowsze) since the year 965... and the Prussians were newcomers to it plus during most period of the game the territory is controlled by the Duchy. Anyway I have provided both Polish and German name for the city where possible and applicable.



Click here for original version (2MB):
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I hope my work will be of some use to the project. Please feel free to comment and propose your fixes if something is wrong. In my opinion it's now much better since cities like Bialystok, Grodno, Warszawa are in their correct places and areas like Podlasie or Wolyn too...

Yours,
Dominik

edit: a quick note, I have checked more scenarios that deal with Poland (amongst many others): 1807, 1809 - in 1807 scenario the allegiances are not good since most of Wielkopolska is shown as 75% coalition allegiance - 25% french allegiance. By may 1807 this terrain was 100% Polish (french) in allegiance. In fact forming of units started in Wielkopolska first, even when Warsaw was not yet liberated. As for the 1809 scenario the border between austria and duchy is completely wrong - Kalisz was Polish while at the same time the southern half of the country was still austrian. It was _after_ the war of 1809 that Krakow, Lublin and many other cities were incorporated into the duchy - see my map above. So in fact the Austrian started the campaign with their forces in Radom and quickly crossed the border and reached Warszawa.

[morvael]

Below I present a more or less complete list of most important Polish generals of the Napoleonic period. I have selected those that have been promoted at least to the rank of general of brigade during the period 1806-1815 and served in the Polish army (so Poles serving only in French army are not included).

1. Wincenty Aksamitowski, 1806-1811 (French service), *
2. Lukasz Bieganski, 1807-1813 (captured), *
3. Mikolaj Oppeln-Bronikowski, 1808-1809 (French service), *
4. Michal Cichocki, 1813-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
5. Jan Henryk Dabrowski, 1806-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), **
6. Dominik Dziewanowski, 1806-1812 (captured), *
7. Stanislaw Fiszer, 1806-1812 (killed), *
8. Romuald Giedroyc, 1812-1813 (captured), *
9. Ignacy Gielgud, 1806-1087 (killed), *
10. Michal Grabowski, 1807-1812 (killed), *
11. Stefan Grabowski, 1812-1813 (captured), *
12. Maurycy Hauke, 1807-1813 (captured), *
13. Kajetan Hebdowski, 1807-1812 (captured), *
14. Ludwik Kamieniecki, 1807-1813 (captured), *
15. Michal Ignacy Kamienski, 1808-1812 (captured), *
16. Karol Otto Kniaziewicz, 1812-1813 (resigned), **
17. Jakub Komierowski, 1806-1807 (killed), *
18. Jan Konopka, 1812-1812 (captured), * - Lithuanian forces
19. Antoni Amilkar Kosinski, 1806-1813 (resigned), *
20. Jozef Korwin-Kossakowski, 1812-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), * - Lithuanian forces
21. Franciszek Ksawery Kossecki, 1812-1813 (captured), *
22. Izydor Krasinski, 1806-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
23. Wincenty Krasinski, 1811-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
24. Ludwik Kropinski, 1812-1812 (resigned), *
25. Jan Stefan Krukowiecki, 1813-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
26. Zygmunt Kurnatowski, 1814-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
27. Walenty Kwasniewski, 1810-1813 (died), *
28. Jozef Benedykt Laczynski, 1812-1813 (French service), *
29. Kazimierz Malachowski, 1813-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
30. Stanislaw Andrzej Jakub Mielzynski, 1810-1813 (captured), *
31. Jozef Niemojewski, 1806-1812 (wounded), *
32. Franciszek Ksawery Niesiolowski, 1812-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), * - Lithuanian forces
33. Ludwik Michal Pac, 1812-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
34. Czeslaw Pakosz, 1812-1812 (captured), *
35. Franciszek Paszkowski, 1812-1813 (captured), *
36. Jean Baptiste Pelletier, 1808-1812 (captured), *
37. Michal Piotrowski, 1807-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
38. Jozef Antoni Poniatowski, 1806-1813 (killed), ** (or *** as marshal)
39. Stanislaw Potocki, 1810-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
40. Michal Gedeon Radziwill, 1811-1813 (captured), *
41. Jozef Rautenstrauch, 1813-1813 (captured), *
42. Aleksander Rozniecki, 1806-1813? (captured), *
43. Jan Kanty Julian Sierawski, 1813-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
44. Michal Sokolnicki, 1807-1810 (health problems), *
45. Antoni Pawel Sulkowski, 1810-1813 (resigned), *
46. Jozef Tolinski, 1812-1813 (captured), *
47. Kazimierz Turno, 1810-1813 (captured), *
48. Tadeusz Tyszkiewicz, 1812-1812 (captured), *
49. Jan Nepomucen Uminski, 1812-1813 (captured), *
50. Jozef Wasilewski, 1812-1812 (captured), *
51. Jan Weyssenhof, 1813-1813 (captured), *
52. Jozef Wielhorski, 1809-1812 (captured), *
53. Stanislaw Woyczynski, 1806-1814 (Napoleon's abdication), *
54. Jozef Zajaczek, 1806-1812 (captured), **
55. Edward Zoltowski, 1811-1813 (captured), *

I have not included some generals that were appointed as such but were not active in the service in one way or the other. There are included some (few) generals that performed staff-work like organizing forces etc. but never commanded a regular unit.

Below are generals holding important posts (division command or higher) during the period. Some of those generals were only ad-hoc commanders but I have decided to include them. I will fill in the details later.

Corps Commanders

1. Jan Henryk Dabrowski
2. Karol Otto Kniaziewicz
3. Jozef Antoni Poniatowski
4. Antoni Pawel Sulkowski
5. Jozef Zajaczek

Staff Work

1. Stanislaw Fiszer
2. Kajetan Hebdowski
3. Jozef Benedykt Laczynski
4. Jean Baptiste Pelletier
5. Jozef Wasilewski
6. Jozef Wielhorski

Division Commanders

1. Ignacy Gielgud
2. Maurycy Hauke
3. Ludwik Kamieniecki
4. Michal Ignacy Kamienski
5. Antoni Amilkar Kosinski
6. Izydor Krasinski
7. Wincenty Krasinski
8. Ludwik Kropinski
9. Franciszek Paszkowski
10. Aleksander Rozniecki
11. Michal Sokolnicki
12. Stanislaw Woyczynski
13. Edward Zoltowski

[morvael]

I will try to fill in this post with more OOB's for other campaigns (or more details to the existing ones) when I will have more free time and when someone will express their interest in getting those details.

June 1808, Polish Army after reorganization
Polish Army

• 1st Division (1. Dywizja)
  
  • Commander: Jozef Poniatowski
  • 1st Brigade (1. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Wincenty Aksamitowski
    • 1st Infantry Regiment (1. Pulk Piechoty) - Warszawa
    • 2nd Infantry Regiment (2. Pulk Piechoty) - Modlin
  • 2nd Brigade (2. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Stanislaw Woyczynski
    • 3rd Infantry Regiment (3. Pulk Piechoty) - Warszawa
    • 4th Infantry Regiment (4. Pulk Piechoty) - Plock
  • Attached units
    
    • 1st Chasseur Regiment (1. Pulk Strzelcow Konnych) - Warszawa
    • 2nd Uhlan Regiment (2. Pulk Ulanow) - Warszawa
    • 1st Artillery Battalion (1. Batalion Artylerii) - Warszawa
• 2nd Division (2. Dywizja)
  
  • Commander: Jozef Zajaczek
  • 1st Brigade (1. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Jozef Niemojowski
    • 5th Infantry Regiment (5. Pulk Piechoty) - Czestochowa
    • 6th Infantry Regiment (6. Pulk Piechoty) - Kalisz
  • 2nd Brigade (2. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Aleksander Radziminski, later Izydor Krasinski
    • 7th Infantry Regiment (7. Pulk Piechoty) - Kalisz
    • 8th Infantry Regiment (8. Pulk Piechoty) - Gniezno
  • Attached units
    
    • 3rd Uhlan Regiment (3. Pulk Ulanow) - Sieradz
    • 4th Chasseur Regiment (4. Pulk Strzelcow Konnych) - Kalisz
    • 2nd Artillery Battalion (2. Batalion Artylerii) - Kalisz
• 3rd Division (3. Dywizja)
  
  • Commander: Jan Henryk Dabrowski
  • 1st Brigade (1. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Michal Sokolnicki
    • 9th Infantry Regiment (9. Pulk Piechoty) - Leczyca
    • 10th Infantry Regiment (10. Pulk Piechoty) - Wschowa
  • 2nd Brigade (2. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Michal Grabowski
    • 11th Infantry Regiment (11. Pulk Piechoty) - Poznan
    • 12th Infantry Regiment (12. Pulk Piechoty) - Torun
  • Attached units
    
    • 5th Chasseur Regiment (5. Pulk Strzelcow Konnych) - Rawa
    • 6th Uhlan Regiment (6. Pulk Ulanow) - Gniezno
    • 3rd Artillery Battalion (3. Batalion Artylerii) - Poznan

In French service
...

August 1808, Napoleon takes some regiments into French service

• To Spain
  
  • 4th Infantry Regiment (4. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 7th Infantry Regiment (7. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 9th Infantry Regiment (9. Pulk Piechoty)
  • Sapper Company (Kompania Saperów)
  • Artillery Company (Kompania Artylerii)
• To Prussia
  
  • 5th Infantry Regiment (5. Pulk Piechoty) - Kustrin
  • 10th Infantry Regiment (10. Pulk Piechoty) - Stettin
  • 11th Infantry Regiment (11. Pulk Piechoty) - Danzig
  • 4th Chasseur Regiment (4. Pulk Strzelcow Konnych) - Stettin
  • 1st Artillery Company (1. Kompania Artylerii) - Danzig

March 1810, Polish Army after reorganization

• 17 infantry regiments, each with 2487 men (3 battalions) - 42 279 men
• 15 cavalry regiments, each with 823 men - 12 345 men
• 1 cuirassier regiment, 419 men
• artillery regiment, 2685 men
• horse artillery regiment, 691 men
• sapper bn, 756 men

- total 59 175 men
(not including regiments of the Legion of the Vistula or 1er Régiment de chevau-légers (polonais) de la Garde Impériale).

1812 Campaign
V Corps

• Commander: Jozef Poniatowski
• Chief of Staff: Stanislaw Fiszer
• Artillery Commander: Jean Pelletier
• Sapper Commander: Jean-Baptiste Mallet de Grandeville
• 16th Infantry Division (16. Dywizja Piechoty)
  
  • Commander: Jozef Zajaczek; later: Izydor Krasinski and Franciszek Paszkowski
  • 1st Brigade (1. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Stanislaw Mielzynski
    • 3rd Infantry Regiment (3. Pulk Piechoty)
    • 15th Infantry Regiment (15. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 2nd Brigade (2. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Franciszek Paszkowski
    • 16th Infantry Regiment (16. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 18th Cavalry Brigade (18. Brygada Jazdy)
    
    • Commander: Michal Ignacy Kamienski
    • 4th Chasseur Regiment (4. Pulk Strzelcow Konnych)
    • 12th Uhlan Regiment (12. Pulk Ulanow)
• 17th Infantry Division (17. Dywizja Piechoty)
  
  • Commander: Jan Henryk Dabrowski
  • 1st Brigade (1. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Edward Zoltowski
    • 1st Infantry Regiment (1. Pulk Piechoty)
    • 6th Infantry Regiment (6. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 2nd Brigade (2. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Czeslaw Pakosz
    • 14th Infantry Regiment (14. Pulk Piechoty)
    • 17th Infantry Regiment (17. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 19th Cavalry Brigade (19. Brygada Jazdy)
    
    • Commander: Tadeusz Tyszkiewicz
    • 1st Chasseur Regiment (1. Pulk Strzelcow Konnych)
    • 15th Uhlan Regiment (15. Pulk Ulanow) - must check more sources for this
• 18th Infantry Division (18. Dywizja Piechoty)
  
  • Commander: Ludwik Kamieniecki
  • 1st Brigade (1. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Michal Grabowski
    • 2nd Infantry Regiment (2. Pulk Piechoty)
    • 8th Infantry Regiment (8. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 2nd Brigade (2. Brygada)
    
    • Commander: Stanislaw Potocki
    • 12th Infantry Regiment (12. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 20th Cavalry Brigade (20. Brygada Jazdy)
    
    • Commander: Antoni Pawel Sulkowski
    • 5th Chasseur Regiment (5. Pulk Strzelcow Konnych)
    • 13th Hussar Regiment (13. Pulk Huzarow)

4th Light Cavalry Division (4. Dywizja Lekkiej Jazdy) in IV Reserve Cavalry Corps

• Commander: Aleksander Rozniecki
• 28th Cavalry Brigade (28. Brygada Jazdy)
  
  • Commander: Dominik Dziewanowski
  • 2nd Uhlan Regiment (2. Pulk Ulanow)
  • 7th Uhlan Regiment (7. Pulk Ulanow)
  • 15th Uhlan Regiment (15. Pulk Ulanow)
• 29th Cavalry Brigade (29. Brygada Jazdy)
  
  • Commander: Kazimierz Turno
  • 3rd Uhlan Regiment (3. Pulk Ulanow)
  • 11th Uhlan Regiment (11. Pulk Ulanow)
  • 16th Uhlan Regiment (16. Pulk Ulanow)

Others

• infantry brigade in I Corps (later in X Corps)
  
  • Commander: Michal Radziwill
  • 5th Infantry Regiment (5. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 10th Infantry Regiment (10. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 11th Infantry Regiment (11. Pulk Piechoty)
• infantry brigade in IX Corps
  
  • 4th Infantry Regiment (4. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 7th Infantry Regiment (7. Pulk Piechoty)
  • 9th Infantry Regiment (9. Pulk Piechoty)
• in I Reserve Cavalry Corps
  
  • 9th Uhlan Regiment (9. Pulk Ulanow)
• cavalry brigade in I Reserve Cavalry Corps
  
  • Commander: Jozef Niemojewski
  • 6th Uhlan Regiment (6. Pulk Ulanow)
  • 8th Uhlan Regiment (8. Pulk Ulanow)
• in II Reserve Cavalry Corps
  
  • 10th Hussar Regiment (10. Pulk Huzarow)
• in IV Reserve Cavalry Corps
  
  • 14th Cuirassier Regiment (14. Pulk Kirasjerow)
• in Zamosc as garrison
  
  • 13th Infantry Regiment (13. Pulk Piechoty)

In French service

• Legion of the Vistula [...]
• 1. Pulk Lekkokonny (Polski) Gwardii Cesarskiej
• 7. Pulk Lansjerow
• 8. Pulk Lekkokonny

Formed in Lithuania

• 3. Pulk Lekkokonny (Polski) Gwardii Cesarskiej
• 18th Infantry Regiment (18. Pulk Piechoty)
• 19th Infantry Regiment (19. Pulk Piechoty)
• 20th Infantry Regiment (20. Pulk Piechoty)
• 21th Infantry Regiment (21. Pulk Piechoty)
• 22th Infantry Regiment (22. Pulk Piechoty)
• 17th Uhlan Regiment (17. Pulk Ulanow)
• 18th Uhlan Regiment (18. Pulk Ulanow)
• 19th Uhlan Regiment (19. Pulk Ulanow)
• 20th Uhlan Regiment (20. Pulk Ulanow)
• 21st Chasseur Regiment (21. Pulk Strzelcow Konnych)

During the campaign, three cavalry brigades from V Corps formed a separate cavalry division under Michal Ignacy Kamienski.

[morvael]

I work hard and collect more and more data which I enter here. I hope it will be of some use to AGEOD one day

If someone could help me and has more information than I have - please PM me or write here in this thread.

[PhilThib]

Polish generals name is really great. Please not however that we use ONLY those who rose to Division rank or higher (the other names shall be used too, but only for flavor names inside units, not as generals per se)

[morvael]

Ok, I will mark those that commanded a division. I thought there is place for brigade commanders too, like in AACW (when you "merge" a * general with a single brigade).

[PhilThib]

I work hard and collect more and more data which I enter here. I hope it will be of some use to AGEOD one day

If someone could help me and has more information than I have - please PM me or write here in this thread.

No great work is ever lost... of course we shall use this. Probably when working out some campaign update, or for scenario improvement.

What would be of best use to us right now is both part and more of what you have done for 1812, i.e. OOB of operational units (corps, divisions, brigades) and also all those units that were on garrison.

Having them for 1806-1807 (if any) and 1809 would greatly improve those scenarios...

Also if you have information on what Polish units were raised in 1806, 1807, 1808 and 1809, that would also help to get them into the next scenario updates...

I am currently working on the map update (thanks!!) but it will take quite some time to fix (because there are graphics changes, and these cannot be done before January)

[morvael]

I'm glad you like it and that you will incorporate map changes. I have used the existing provinces so only names and roads should be changed but I think a new layout would be better (yet I know it's too much to ask).

I have the data about the regiments since 1807 I will post them here of course when I will have more time for this. Just check this thread from time to time.

I will also rearrange the list of generals marking those who commanded a corps and those who commanded a division.

By the way, could you change the topic of the thread as I have asked in the first post?

[morvael]

Below is the list of regiments recruited in the Polish Army of the Duchy of Warsaw. If you would like more details, don't hesitate to PM me.

Translation

• 1. = 1st (etc.)
• Pulk Piechoty = Infantry Regiment
• Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej = Galician-French Infantry Regiment
• Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej = Infantry Regiment of the Poznan Legion
• Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej = Infantry Regiment of the Kalisz Legion
• Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej = Infantry Regiment of the Warszawa Legion

Infantry Regiments

1806 - recruitment during the 1806-1807 campaign (late November 1806 - early March 1807)

• 1. Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej - Gniezno
• 2. Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej - Poznan
• 3. Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej - Poznan
• 4. Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej - Poznan
• 1. Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej - Plock
• 2. Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej - Kalisz
• 3. Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej - Kalisz
• 4. Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej - Kalisz
• 1. Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej - Warszawa
• 2. Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej - Warszawa
• 3. Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej - Warszawa
• 4. Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej - Plock

1807 - reorganization after the 1807 campaign (4th April 1807)

• 1. Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej -> 1. Pulk Piechoty
• 2. Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej -> 2. Pulk Piechoty
• 3. Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej -> 3. Pulk Piechoty
• 4. Pulk Piechoty Legii Warszawskiej -> 4. Pulk Piechoty
• 1. Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej -> 5. Pulk Piechoty
• 2. Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej -> 6. Pulk Piechoty
• 3. Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej -> 7. Pulk Piechoty
• 4. Pulk Piechoty Legii Kaliskiej -> 8. Pulk Piechoty
• 1. Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej -> 9. Pulk Piechoty
• 2. Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej -> 10. Pulk Piechoty
• 3. Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej -> 11. Pulk Piechoty
• 4. Pulk Piechoty Legii Poznanskiej -> 12. Pulk Piechoty

1809 - recruitment during the 1809 campaign (late April 1809 - early July 1809)

• 1. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej - Lublin
• 2. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej - Lomza
• 3. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej - Poznan
• 4. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej - Lublin
• 5. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej - Zamosc

1809 - reorganization after the 1809 campaign (26th December 1809)

• 1. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej -> 13. Pulk Piechoty
• 2. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej -> 14. Pulk Piechoty
• 3. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej -> 15. Pulk Piechoty
• 4. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej -> 16. Pulk Piechoty
• 5. Pulk Piechoty Galicyjsko-Francuskiej -> 17. Pulk Piechoty

1812 - recruitment during the 1812 campaign (early July 1812 - early August 1812)

• 18. Pulk Piechoty - Grodno
• 19. Pulk Piechoty - Talsi
• 20. Pulk Piechoty - Grodno
• 21. Pulk Piechoty - Vilnius
• 22. Pulk Piechoty - Minsk

Cavalry Regiments
... to be done...

Artillery Regiments
... to be done...

Notes
The place of recruitment is adjusted to show a province in NCP as close as possible to the real place of recruitment.