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jastaV
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Battle Casualties

Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:44 pm

As a start point for a discussion over Battle Casualties, following excessive losses reported by some NCP users, I started collecting and posting some data.

Battle losses
For any battle I reported starting forces and losses relatively to:
Infantry |Cavalry | Guns, in that exact order.
Infantry and Cavalry are expressed as thousands men. Guns as single unit. Winner side is asterisk (*) marked. Losses % are calculated over infantry and Cavalry, while guns are omitted.
Siege Battles are assaults to besieged enemy occupied fortresses, providing defensive benefits to defender side.

Battles from Prelude to Leipzig, 1813 Spring, Modder Times scenario.
Player COA side.
Notice: historical year 1813 unit models were used in OOB!


Magdeburg Siege
(*) 25|8|70 vs. 8|-|5
(*) 04|1|-- vs. 7|-|4
15% vs. 87%


Stettin Siege
(*) 35|4|56 vs. 7|-|12
(*) 02|-|-- vs. 7|-|12
5% vs. 100%


Danzig
(*) 27|3|131 vs. 25|1|42
(*) 06|1|013 vs. 03|-|--
23% vs. 12%


Rosslau
(*) 41|15|191 vs. 83|10|262
(*) 10|04|--- vs. 21|02|042
25% vs. 25%


Verden
(*) 63|28|257 vs. 116|22|342
(*) 10|04|016 vs. 24|03|019
15% vs. 20%


Weimar
(*) 44|07|146 vs. 44|--|105
(*) 12|04|--- vs. 13|--|001
31% vs. 30%


[color="RoyalBlue"]Down here I reported Historical % losses as reported by David Chandler for some year 1813 battles:
Bautzen: FRA 10%; COA 21%
Dresda: FRA 8%; COA 22%
Lutzen: FRA 18%; COA 24%
Leipzig: FRA 33%; COA 12%[/color]
Ney: The army will not move!
Napoleon: The army will obey me!
Ney: The army will obey to its Generals’ orders!

[SIZE="1"]Fontainebleau, April 1814[/size]

FM WarB
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Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:58 am

Excessive battle losses is an issue that has been addressed in ACW. I do not know if it has for NCP.

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Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:19 am

I know it's a huge task :( but we need the same battles reproduced several times to have a sort of "reproducibility" about losses even if the same historical battle would have been fought again, it wouldn't give necessarily the same outcome.
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jastaV
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Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:22 am

FM WarB wrote:Excessive battle losses is an issue that has been addressed in ACW. I do not know if it has for NCP.


NCP battle losses as % seems to be closed to historical data, according to examples I reported.

Anyway, we had users reporting excessive NCP battle losses too:

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=11718

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=12384

Notice: it's so curious! We have many users reporting oddities in NCP while pointing out in comparison AACW perfection! Your comment goes in the stright opposite way! I start thinking AGEod games look very differentely according to way peoples watch at them!
Not a critic to your comment, from me!!!!!! :neener:
Not a critic to peoples comments!!!!!!! :neener:
On the contrary I love these discussions and guess they are very positive for AGEod too, till the time they move in terms respectful of other's opinions and adding feedbacks usefull to improve games. :wacko:
Ney: The army will not move!

Napoleon: The army will obey me!

Ney: The army will obey to its Generals’ orders!



[SIZE="1"]Fontainebleau, April 1814[/size]

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