Some very small questions about PW

[Nikel]

Hi. Tonight I have been playing a bit and I have some small doubts


Picture 1 Bessieres corps managed to defeat Wellesley, well his force was residual as you can see. All his men were lost. I have seen this before, a force is completely destroyed but the leader survives. I suppose that Wellesley cannot be killed. But this is a bit unrealistic, some small part of his army should have survived with him? I have seen too (no screenshot sorry) that a strong force can eliminate a weak one completely but the stronger gets 0 losses.


Picture 2 Some messages or events are doubled? For example the Treaty of Erfurt (picture 3). And there is a Congress of Erfurt too (picture 4). Is this WAD? I could see a double message of the arriving of an italian division too


Picture 5 When Napoleon arrives with the Grande Armee, comes with him the Armee du Portugal, should this force be called this way? Yes, it is the army that was in Portugal, but it is not there any more, is this historic? About Cintra event, should it appear as The Treaty of Erfurt, in red and with newspaper information? Well perhaps it was my fault, playing too fast and missed it. I just noticed that had lost Lisboa


Regards


Regards

[Nikel]

I have another doubt, playing with the french if you reach 200 morale points, is this enough by itself or alone to win? Or you need more requeriments?


Regards

[jastaV]

I have another doubt, playing with the french if you reach 200 morale points, is this enough by itself or alone to win? Or you need more requeriments?


Regards

Conditions triggering Morale Point victory can be different according to selected Campaigns.
In some long Campaigns, (Peninsular War), MP score drops down for French side, (The same for U.S. side in later AACW campaign years turns!): it so very difficult to trigger a MP victory!

[Nikel]

But is it enough? After Napoleon's campaign (january 8-15, 1809) managed to get 226 points.

But as you can see, I do not control some objectives and coalition morale is not 25 or below, it is 36.


So to win you need more than 200 and the colalition below 25 and control all the objectives?

Ot is it enough with >200 NM points or the coalition below 25


When you get an automatic victory, what happens? After getting >200 I was expecting for something to happen

[jastaV]

But is it enough? After Napoleon's campaign (january 8-15, 1809) managed to get 226 points.

But as you can see, I do not control some objectives and coalition morale is not 25 or below, it is 36.


So to win you need more than 200 and the colalition below 25 and control all the objectives?

Ot is it enough with >200 NM points or the coalition below 25


When you get an automatic victory, what happens? After getting >200 I was expecting for something to happen

Last time I played Peninsular War Campaign I was running patch 1.03c!
I had no chance to try any NCP Campaign with 1.04x patches!
That said, Automatic Victory -Sudden end Victory- should be trigged when any of two side reaches his maximum or mininum NM level as per played scenery.
There's no need to control all objective cities to trigger a NM victory!
...So as soon as you gained >200 NM points scenery should end with a decisive victory!

Note:
With version 1.03c I noticed that although I was controlling all objective cities and all other map cities too, I was not able to trigger an automatic Victory for French side.
That was because French Automatic Victory NM point was set to >230 pts, while achived NM points were automatically dropping down as per Scenery conditions........
The trouble was reported to AGEOD team and probably something has been changed with 1.04x patches.

When you get an automatic victory, what happens? After getting >200 I was expecting for something to happen....

Scenery should end with a decisive victory!

When I was playing American Revolution scenery from BOA, I observed that a Decisive Victory could be triggered by control of all objective cities.
With AACW Grandcampaign control of all objective cities is not sufficient to trigger an automatic victory: you have to enforce the max. or min. NM level per one of two sides.
.....Anyway as soon as automatic victory conditions are met campaign is to end.
If you experience that's not true you have to report it to AGEOD team, as a bug!

JastaV

[Nikel]

Thanks for the answer jastaV, must be a bug then


After another year of struggle I managed to take all the objectives (picture 1), holding >200 NM points along the year, 235 at this point

To take Gibraltar was really difficult, the defenses are very strong now, I had to deplete nearly all my army in the peninsula and concentrate several corps around Gibraltrar for the final blow. This must be the cause I lost control of great part of the countryside (picture 2) and so coatilion NM increades to 95


Still the game has not ended

[jastaV]

Thanks for the answer jastaV, must be a bug then


After another year of struggle I managed to take all the objectives (picture 1), holding >200 NM points along the year, 235 at this point

To take Gibraltar was really difficult, the defenses are very strong now, I had to deplete nearly all my army in the peninsula and concentrate several corps around Gibraltrar for the final blow. This must be the cause I lost control of great part of the countryside (picture 2) and so coatilion NM increades to 95


Still the game has not ended

Countryside control is easely lost any time a guerrilla offensive spreads.
But, that was uninfluent on long term period: Guerrilla Units go disbanding few turns later they spreaded around.

In later years of Peninsular War campaigns, Coalition NM self-increases as French NM self-drops as per scenery rules.

Anyway, having scored > 200 NM points your Campaign should have been concluded with a major victory as this time.
Please report AGEOD for a possible bug!

[jastaV]

Here I posted my observations over ver 1.03c Peninsulat War NCP:

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=8863

Guess, AGEOD team modified Peninsulat War victory conditions with ver 1.04x.
now it seems easier to gain the max. NM point level. None the less, victory condition is not triggered,...... I suppose because of a bug!

JastaV

[Nikel]

Another little commet, this time about Napoleon Grande Armee OOB on arrival


I have been checking, just by curiosity, the correspondence with Oman's first volume on the Peninsular war.


For example Lefevbre Corps, Sebastiani division

In the game the elements include 28, 32 and 75 ligne and 58 Leger

On Oman's book 28, 32, 58, 75 all ligne

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Another example, Mortier Corps, Suchet Division

In the game the elements include 100 and 103 ligne, 21 and 28 leger

On Oman´s book 34, 40, 64 and 88 line, 17 leger. In the game this is what form the other division commanded by Gazan, excep 17 leger, not included. And as you can see Suchet division in the game is exactly the same that commands Gazan on the book, so is there an exchange of the commanders?


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Of course this is not exhaustive, just a pair of examples and perhaps Oman is nor right What book was used for the OOB of Napoleon'a Armee on his arrival to Spain?


Regards