One-star corps commander

[warrenpeace]

I am playing the Jena scenario from the Prussian side and have been reorginizing my Army. For reasons that I do not understand, I have been able to make some one star commanders into corps commanders. Specifically I have disbanded the Elbe Army and now can make King Fredrich, Kalkreuth, and Wurtenberg as corps commanders (all one star). It was also odd that Orange (2 stars) is not promotable to corps commander.

I have saves if interested.

Warren

[Hobbes]

I also see this with Russian leaders starting the game as 1 star Corps commanders. I assume it is working as intended - but then the manual is incorrect. The 1 star Corps commanders get less CP's than the 2 star.

Cheers, Chris

[caranorn]

I think these are indeed errors in the game. Friedrich Wilhelm III has the 1* icon but shows as rank 3 in the ledger in the 1806 scenario. I have Kalkreuth and Würtemberg correctly as 2* in both icon and ledger (but I'm running a beta version of the game right now).

These errors should be reported so they can be corrected in the next patches.

Attached: Ledger Screenshot showing ranks of Prussian Commanders, highlighted FW III.

[caranorn]

Same 1806 scenario, french side. Napoleon has the 4* icon but only 3* rank in the ledger. But maybe this is as intended (I notice he's also given 3* rank in the 1805 Austerlitz ledger...).

[Hobbes]

It would be nice to see what the word on this is from above.

Cheers, Chris

[PhilThib]

In all practice, 4* stars rank does not exist...it is only here for pure aesthetic purpose and to stress the fact that leader is the top notch guy...it is a graphic-only trick...in game terms, Napoleon is rank 3 (but has best seniority possible)..

For the kings (ex: FWIII), it might be an error, I hope fixed in the upcoming Db... they are technically highest rank in their nations but never really "commanded" unless on a purely theoretical matter...hence the rank but the the 1*star display...I'll see to it we change it if too complex or confusing...

Any suggestions ?

[Nial]

Italian army commander in War on the Danube campaign is a one star. Wanted to know if this is on purpose before I change it.


Nial

[pablius]

I don´t know if the king of prussia or the zar of russia ever gave an order in the battlefield, but they should be able to lead an army, after all, the fact that napoleon´s enemies were still giving away military comissions for aristocratic reasons is accurate AFAIK...If they were horrible military commanders was somewhat irrelevant, right? I believe that even Wellington bought his comission at one point

And in any case, it shouldn´t be the case to have a king only able to fight as corps commander subordinated to another general...that strikes me as completly implausible

[Nial]

I don´t know if the king of prussia or the zar of russia ever gave an order in the battlefield, but they should be able to lead an army, after all, the fact that napoleon´s enemies were still giving away military comissions for aristocratic reasons is accurate AFAIK...If they were horrible military commanders was somewhat irrelevant, right? I believe that even Wellington bought his comission at one point

And in any case, it shouldn´t be the case to have a king only able to fight as corps commander subordinated to another general...that strikes me as completly implausible

Im pretty sure all british army commisions were bought in this time period. Not sure about other armies.

Nial

[Sol Invictus]

There were a few commisions gained by merit, but very rare.

[BreckInridge]

Just wanted to add, when I promoted one of the Prussian two star generals in Jena, his graphic didn't change- he went from ** to **. Was it Kalreuth? Though internaly in the engine there may have been a difference, I wouldn't know. I hope this gets fixed in the data base, because the "fun" aspect in this scenerio is trying to create a decent Prussian command structure before you get obliterated. Right now its hard to tell what you got and where you are headed; though that may be historical.




As an aside, the British had to buy their comissions because officers and their families typically had to pay for there own uniforms, mess, upkeep, ect. and their salaries couldn't meet these demands properly. This kept a certain class of person as officers in the army (wealthy, educated?), more so than aristocratic. If they couldn't afford the commission they couldn't afford the life. Maybe the British felt this kept the officers vested in the status quo of the nation and not a source of revolutionary ideas.

[PhilThib]

Some of the promotions data was wrong and this was fixed in the latest patch.

Note that while being promoted, the pictures themselves do not change, whether they are a portrait or that of an unknown hat-wearing general.