Grand Campaign?

[FatalMad]

I'll like to see an Oct 1806 to Aug 1807 campaign. This one shouldn't be too hard to make, just put The Thunder of Jena and The Polish Campaign together. I would also like to have Napoleon 1st and 2nd Italian Campaigns and the Egypt campaign. After all the game is called Napoleons Campaigns and those are Napoleons campaigns. And you can not really use the excuse of diplomacy for not having them. But you can say the game is only from 1805 to 1815. leure:

So I guess I would like to see an Oct 1806 to Aug 1807 campaign some day. The longer the campaign the better.
I believe the 1812 to 1814 campaign will require some kind of a diplomatic system.

BTW a grand campaign would be grand.
But I don't think it is going to happen anytime soon.

[PhilThib]

We are working on extended campaigns (including your 1806-1807 suggestion), and new scenarios as well. They shall show up in some weeks...stay tuned

No pre-1805 campaign for the moment, we want to research them a bit more and keep them for the second version of NCP, later in 2009. The Grand Campaign will show up then...

...unless some fans develop it as a mod earlier

[FatalMad]

Thank you…thank you…thank you… PhilThib. You're the greatest.

[Syt]

We are working on extended campaigns (including your 1806-1807 suggestion), and new scenarios as well. They shall show up in some weeks...stay tuned

That's great news. In some campaigns I wished the scenario would start sooner, so that you had more flexibility in maneuvering your troops.

And, of course, a 1812 - 1814 campaign would be most magnificent.

[raylentz]

[quote="PDH"]A grand campaign of the Napoleonic wars would be rough - what to do with the "down time" between wars/campaigns, the potentially ahistoric alliances or abuses, and many other things.

Well during that time you could actually reorganise ur army and maybe prepare for another war. Drafts, Garrisons etc. etc.

[Bruit Bleu]

No pre-1805 campaign for the moment, we want to research them a bit more and keep them for the second version of NCP, later in 2009.

So no Revolutionary Wars until a full year and some monthes has passed ? Are OOB hard to find ?

[PhilThib]

No, but we just do not have the time / human resources to do so...

[ncsu90]

A monster indeed...that's why we could not decently handle it now...we need this game first to please its public, because the gamers will return to us with loads of ideas, suggestions and data for NCP2

That's what happened already with ACW, the game is what it is because of our fans input and follow-up, not because of us

While I'd like a full blown strategic Napoleonic game; the plan to create an intermediate Napoleonic game as an incremental step to a grand campaign is a very good idea.

Is the grand campaign being considered for the next game or is another topical period planned next?


Daniel

[stagira]

We are working on extended campaigns (including your 1806-1807 suggestion), and new scenarios as well. They shall show up in some weeks...stay tuned

No pre-1805 campaign for the moment, we want to research them a bit more and keep them for the second version of NCP, later in 2009. The Grand Campaign will show up then...

...unless some fans develop it as a mod earlier

fantastic!

i hope that your "including", Philippe, means a "Camp de Boulogne to Tilsit" Campaign (which already would be a luscious little-Grand Campaing!...), which must include some limited "diplomacy" issues (mostly the chance of a Prussian earlier intervention): nothing different at all from AACW "foreign intervention".

Some delusion came to me from 1815 Campaign, the so-called "Waterloo Cp". Every Nap fan knows very well that this scenario could be wider, including all other borders of France and other armies (Austrian, Russian, etc.) with further diplomatic variables, etc.

Another one could be a Russia + Spain Campaign, ranging from november 1811 to march 1813 (before Lützen). This one could be a tough challenge for french player, due to reinforcement duties and the related "hamletic" choices about them. This one could probably need to go back to the more complex (and satisfying!...) AACW reinforcement system.

Finally, some Campaigns included in this very first version of the game (1805, 1806, 1809, 1812) have their start too close to their historical and actual combat phase. The "masterpiece of Ulm", for example, began earlier than october: along the paths from Boulogne to Rhine; the Jena-Blitzkrieg was almost entirely due to Napo's secret concentration of troops and the "bataillon carré" forced march thru thuringian woods, etc.
Well: I'd like these extentions in the future.

[PhilThib]

fantastic!

i hope that your "including", Philippe, means a "Camp de Boulogne to Tilsit" Campaign (which already would be a luscious little-Grand Campaing!...), which must include some limited "diplomacy" issues (mostly the chance of a Prussian earlier intervention): nothing different at all from AACW "foreign intervention".

Indeed, it can be done...

[dinsdale]

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't... that's why they favor input from us -- because they realize and also implement valuable contributions from members as they've stated numerous times.

I'm not sure that wishing there was a campaign game now is valuable input.

The task is definitely considerable.

Indeed, and what they really shine at is creating three different games with period feels. The decision making process is very different in all three games, and I look forward to the eventual campaign where the Napoleonic period comes to life.

I'll take option B: Play the game and give input into what I'd like to see in the games as requested and appreciated by ageod.

They made it clear from day 1 that there would be no campaign game in this version. I'm sure they understand how much everyone wants the campaign game, and don't really see the value in saying "I wish NC had a campaign" any more than wishing Vainglory of Nations was released today

[tagwyn]

Amen and AMEN!! PhilT and Pocus for wargaming hall of fame!! T

[Reiryc]

I'm not sure that wishing there was a campaign game now is valuable input.

If they include it in the second iteration of this game or better with additional patches for this game, then it means more player satisfaction which translates into good will which translates into more sales for the present and future titles.

They made it clear from day 1 that there would be no campaign game in this version. I'm sure they understand how much everyone wants the campaign game, and don't really see the value in saying "I wish NC had a campaign" any more than wishing Vainglory of Nations was released today

Looks like they are including some extended campaigns soon though... just another step in the right direction.

You also may have missed this exchange:

Originally Posted by Adam the VIth View Post

I still wish there was a massive 1805-1815 campaign -- I know it seems too much, but I live for that -- still, the playable scenarios are nice -- you can go to sleep at night and feel the warmth of a victory or sting of defeat.

Originally Posted by Adam Parker View Post
What is it that would prevent such a campaign scenario. Is it the map size or memory requirements...?

It would make this game legendary. Isn't Europe tiny?

Originally Posted by Pocus View Post
The engine is not ready. But suppose we find clever work-arounds, like a GC where you play France against the British, and the others nations activate according to some elaborated events (and join one or the other side)... Then it 'just' remains something like 500 hours of work to add the data, script the events and then check everything.

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showpost.php?p=54139&postcount=29

It's possible that a 'clever work around' may come to the fore and it's threads like this that help give motivation to that possibility becoming a reality.

[Adam Parker]

No pre-1805 campaign for the moment, we want to research them a bit more and keep them for the second version of NCP, later in 2009. The Grand Campaign will show up then...

I just want to be sure of something In 2009 will 4Gb Ram and a 768Mb Video card be sufficient to run this new game? apy:

I mean I ain't buyin' another PC till at least 2011