Huge French Engineer units in the Spanish Ulcer

oxford_guy · Thu May 08, 2008 8:01 am

I've just noticed that most (all?) the French engineer units in the Spanish Ulcer campaign are almost 10,000 men in size! Is this intentional or a bug? If the former, why? If the latter, how do I fix this? Thanks

Thu May 08, 2008 11:28 am

Could you post a screenshot of this ???

oxford_guy · Thu May 08, 2008 11:53 am

PhilThib wrote:Could you post a screenshot of this ???

Will do so when I get home today. BTW this is with Patch 1.03c

Offworlder · Thu May 08, 2008 3:17 pm

PhilThib wrote:Could you post a screenshot of this ???

I think its the same problem to which I referred in my mail. These are the engineer units of the initial corps.

oxford_guy · Thu May 08, 2008 4:49 pm

Offworlder wrote:I think its the same problem to which I referred in my mail. These are the engineer units of the initial corps.

Its all of the initial French ones, not just one either! I have a feeling this could be very unbalancing! How bug should they be and is there a file I can edit to fix this? Thanks

Thu May 08, 2008 6:28 pm

I really need the screenshot and the unit detail panel open (plus any tooltip you see) on that problem. I checked the DB, the French Engineers or Sappers are small 1 bn units with 200 men, so can't find what's wrong :8o:

oxford_guy · Thu May 08, 2008 10:49 pm

PhilThib wrote:I really need the screenshot and the unit detail panel open (plus any tooltip you see) on that problem. I checked the DB, the French Engineers or Sappers are small 1 bn units with 200 men, so can't find what's wrong

Here's some screenshots that I think show the problem... NB: the number of men isn't all that clear, but "Genie 4c" is typical at 9870!

Any idea what could be wrong? I'm loath to play this campaign with this bug

leure:

Thu May 08, 2008 11:03 pm

It's not a bug but a wrong DB value for the engineer. Use this one, it should fix the problem

oxford_guy · Thu May 08, 2008 11:46 pm

PhilThib wrote:It's not a bug but a wrong DB value for the engineer. Use this one, it should fix the problem

I'm still getting the same problem of almost 10000 troops per engineer unit after starting a new game.

I replaced the original file in the 'models" directory with the (unzipped) attached one, is this correct?

oxford_guy · Fri May 09, 2008 2:48 pm

oxford_guy wrote:I'm still getting the same problem of almost 10000 troops per engineer unit after starting a new game.

I replaced the original file in the 'models" directory with the (unzipped) attached one, is this correct?

As I said, the bug still exists, any ideas? Was hoping to play the scenario this weekend...

Sun May 11, 2008 8:16 am

This will ask for the recreation of all scenarios having these units alas, so not before the next week, sorry.

oxford_guy · Mon May 12, 2008 5:08 pm

Pocus wrote:This will ask for the recreation of all scenarios having these units alas, so not before the next week, sorry.

Okay, ah well, may try out this scenario now anyway, to get a feel for it, then will start over agin when this bug is fixed. Thanks

arsan · Mon May 12, 2008 6:22 pm

Pocus wrote:This will ask for the recreation of all scenarios having these units alas, so not before the next week, sorry.

Hi
In case it helps...
I had only see this huge engineer units on the Spanish ulcer scenario.
Alli the others i have checked (Both Autsrelitz scenarios, the Prussian one, Leipzig...) have right engineers units of 300 mens and 5 combat pwr.
I'm using the Spanish cd version which comes patched to 1.03d
Regards

Offworlder · Tue May 13, 2008 8:07 am

The huge engineer units came about only with the latest patch. I patched the game to the first patch (ie a) and they were normal. And as Arsan said, these are only present in the Spanish Ulcer Scenario. It's a bit strange...

mikeecee · Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:31 am

I've seen something similar in the 1809 campaign.

arsan · Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:03 am

mikeecee wrote:I've seen something similar in the 1809 campaign.

With the last patch? :bonk:

Could you give more info and/or pots a screenshot?
Thanks!
Oh , and welcome! :cwboy:

Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:07 am

This should have been fixed in 1.04b

FM WarB · Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:58 am

French engineers look correct in Spanish Ulcer 1.04b.

arsan · Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:04 am

FM WarB wrote:French engineers look correct in Spanish Ulcer 1.04b.

Indeed!
I will recheck the 1809 campaign ones this evening but i think they were ok too the last time i checked the scenario.
Regards!

FM WarB · Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:41 am

Spanish Ulcer looked fine, but 1809 has the oversized engineers. I see nothing in Setup, Model or Unit files that should cause it.
This is 1.04b.

arsan · Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:48 am

leure:

Nikel · Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:01 pm

FM WarB wrote:Spanish Ulcer looked fine, but 1809 has the oversized engineers. I see nothing in Setup, Model or Unit files that should cause it.
This is 1.04b.

But this is not a bug, it is a feature!

Remember the thread about fortifications, sappers are essential, so we will be able to construct, not only Torres Vedras, but the Great Wall :niark:

Another confirmation here, is happening in all the corps with sappeurs, for example Marmont's

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FM WarB · Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:39 pm

those Armored Sappers are ROBO-Soldats!...lol

mikeecee · Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:50 pm

arsan wrote:With the last patch?
Could you give more info and/or pots a screenshot?
Thanks!
Oh , and welcome!

Haven't got any screenshots, but it's fairly easily to fix. In the ledger
the French sappers(Polish,Saxon etc are fine) health are shown as 99/3. I just changed the health to 3 in the scenario set up file.

Thanks for the welcome.

arsan · Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:15 pm

Hi Mike!
No need for the screenshot now, Nikel has posted one already. You were right! :cwboy:

Thanks for the fix tip. :coeurs:

It's very useful meanwhile a new patch arrives and solves the problem!
Cheers

FM WarB · Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:18 pm

mikeecee wrote:Haven't got any screenshots, but it's fairly easily to fix. In the ledger
the French sappers(Polish,Saxon etc are fine) health are shown as 99/3. I just changed the health to 3 in the scenario set up file.

Thanks for the welcome.

How did you change health in the scenario setup file???

mikeecee · Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:31 pm

FM WarB wrote:How did you change health in the scenario setup file???

Hi WarB you need to open the 1809 file from the scenarios folder, then search for each of the units ( there are I think 7 with the designation Genie
and one Sappeurs ). The code should look like this ;

Genie 3C
NULL
NULL
NULL
NULL
NULL
NULL
{SubUnit}
1000844
167
99
0
0

The 99 (in some cases I think it's 97) needs to be changed to a 3. Probably best to back-up first, but it worked fine for me.
This is with the 1.04b patch. Hope this helps.

FM WarB · Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:31 pm

Thanks! That did the trick. Also, while mucking around in that file I reassigned Jerome and Kellerman to l'Armee d'Allemagne from the Armee de Dalmatie.

arsan · Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:06 pm

Mmmm... how about posting here the fixed scenario file for those lazy players like me?? :siffle:

Thanks in advance! :coeurs:

Nikel · Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:13 pm

And/or where is PhilThib? :niark:

Huge French Engineer units in the Spanish Ulcer

Huge French Engineer units in the Spanish Ulcer

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