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One-star can form a corps?

Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:47 pm

I am about to reorganize the Anglo-Allied army a bit in the 1815 campaign, as it's evidently not in its best possible shape, with lot of command penalties ... or let's say I am just playing around a bit. :innocent:

Now here comes. The manual says it needs a 2- or 3-star to form a corps. Sure enough, if I try any 1-star, even with a high seniority, the button is greyed out.

However, Decken can form a corps in spite of being a 1-star only. This works whether he is with his "force" or alone, or anywhere else. He is the only 1-star I can find who can do so ... how is that? Thanks. :)
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Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:16 pm

Most probably (I did not check the DB) he is a two-star but has a wrong one-star symbol. It's a small (graphical) DB error.

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Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:04 pm

It's effectively stange for a brigadier-general to be able to reach corps command ( in game terms at least).
Does it belong to King's German Legion ? (although even in this case I don't see why he has the aptitude to form a corps ...)
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Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:53 pm

Primasprit wrote:Most probably (I did not check the DB) he is a two-star but has a wrong one-star symbol. It's a small (graphical) DB error.


I thought of that for a moment ... but then resolved to hope that the symbol is called up from the DB separately, i.e. according to actual rank / in game function, rather than pinned to the Decken graphics permanently. Otherwise, how could you ever promote someone? :innocent:
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Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:55 pm

Adlertag wrote:It's effectively stange for a brigadier-general to be able to reach corps command ( in game terms at least).
Does it belong to King's German Legion ? (although even in this case I don't see why he has the aptitude to form a corps ...)
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He was an artillery commander with the KGL earlier, but at Waterloo he commanded a Hannoverian body of troops--it may have been called a "corps" but in the more general sense, not as in "army corps".

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Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:32 pm

And with the help of your document, we can see there is no "Gustav" listed, so who is the man modeled into the game if not "Gustav" ?
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Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:15 pm

Adlertag wrote:And with the help of your document, we can see there is no "Gustav" listed, so who is the man modeled into the game if not "Gustav" ?


I don't know where he gets the "Gustav" but this here is the von der Decken who was with the KGL and the Hanoverians at Waterloo ...
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Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:00 pm

Anyway, is this something that ought to be fixed? Fact is, simply making von der Decken a corps commander solves practically all command problems for the AAA in the Belgium scenario, which are otherwise quite severe. :cool:
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Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:03 am

Decken is listed as a 2-star general in the DB but a 1-star symbol is assigned to him. I don't know however if he ought to be a 1-star general or if the symbol is wrong. But I guess one of the scenario designers should know... :siffle:

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Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:40 am

He is designed as a 1-star general :cwboy:
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Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:28 pm

PhilThib wrote:He is designed as a 1-star general :cwboy:


So why *can* he form a corps? :confused:
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Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm

Heldenkaiser wrote:So why *can* he form a corps? :confused:


Because he is a two star general with a one star symbol assigned to him.
It is a typo in the DB. He is supposed to be a one star general. This will be fixed.

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NationTag = ENG
Name = $Model_Name_ENG_Decken1
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ImageID = [B]symbol_general_1.png[/B]
[...]
[B]LeaderRank = 2[/B]
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:41 am

Forwarding the request to our NCP Coordinator, Brigade Infernale.

Thanks for the report. (and thanks Norbert for the service too!)
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:20 pm

Thanks! Meanwhile, I am invading Northern France with Decken leading Wellington's Reserve Corps just fine. We whipped the Frogs thrice already. :niark:
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:40 pm

They will jump back on you :)
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:55 pm

The problem will be fix in the next patch. I modify the DB and check. it works fine now.
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