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Prussian marches (music)

Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:02 pm

At this net page a wide collection of German Military Marches in MP3, the standard already supported by AGEod games:
http://marsches.ru/en/deutsch/article-listDe.html

I guess many of ones here available are later or Nazi marches!
What of many ones enlisted here are proper of Boney Age?

May be someone knowing german language could help!

Thanks in advance

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Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:21 pm

How is the legitimacy of that site?

(I'm wondering, since it isn't obvious from the site itself)
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Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:08 pm

Rafiki wrote:How is the legitimacy of that site?

(I'm wondering, since it isn't obvious from the site itself)


Sorry, may be I did not properly understand your question! :confused:
The site is Russian, and curiously it allows free download of marches from many nations, but russian ones that are sold on CD!
But that, all that music is usually regarded as public domain one.

The site is then quoted in Wikipedia, too and recommended for download of military marches from all the world. :neener:

Notice the French sections is very intersting too!

The Italian section contain a collection of public domain italian marches commonly played by modern italian military bands and few ones from the past.
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Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:11 pm

jastaV wrote:Sorry, may be I did not properly understand your question! :confused:
The site is Russian, and curiously it allows free download of marches from many nations, but russian ones that are sold on CD!
But that, all that music is usually regarded as public domain one.

The site is then quoted in Wikipedia, too and recommended for download of military marches from all the world. :neener:

Notice the French sections is very intersting too!

The Italian section contain a collection of public domain italian marches commonly played by modern italian military bands and few ones from the past.


Beware that while the music may be considered public domain [composer dead, etc.], quite often the performance [recording] is still copyrighted.

While it is your personal choice to download music any way you wish [even though some sites are borderline pirates, if not blatant pirates], I'm quite certain that AGEOD will not use any music without thorough 'vetting' for legal licence and rights.
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Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:59 pm

lodilefty wrote:Beware that while the music may be considered public domain [composer dead, etc.], quite often the performance [recording] is still copyrighted.

While it is your personal choice to download music any way you wish [even though some sites are borderline pirates, if not blatant pirates], I'm quite certain that AGEOD will not use any music without thorough 'vetting' for legal licence and rights.


Have to fully agree with you! :neener:

:wacko: Now, my idea is a bit different! :cool:

We could, here at AGEod site, host download links for a selection of musical pieces. It will then single users to decide to download them!
On the other end we could provide "replacement" Musics.ini file to support new pieces inside AGEod games.
It will be to users to download mp3 files and Musics.ini file to personalize it's installation. :w00t:

That to reply to the suggestion of having COA or FRA side music when playing for a side or the other.

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Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:13 pm

IMHO, posting download sites here would be OK only if the sites are proven to be legitimate, legal sources.

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Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:29 pm

lodilefty wrote:IMHO, posting download sites here would be OK only if the sites are proven to be legitimate, legal sources.

No piracy. Never, no way.


It's okay!
Jusy guess we could trust Wikepedia!
BTW, any link sites hosting German military marches of napoleonic age will be of interest.
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I was forced to confront this issue several months ago when I bought a copy of HPS Jena. The music in HPS series games is generally not very good, but in the Napoleonic games the selection has gone beyond disappointing.

I dug through the chaos in my apartment and found my old copy of Europa Universalis II. Johann really cared about the quality and breadth of what went into that game, but apart from the Joculatores Upsalienses and a very original interpretation of Vivaldi’s Four Seasons, I couldn’t find what I wanted.

One positive side effect was that this got me into buying fixes for HPS music: their worst aesthetic atrocity is an incredibly inauthentic rendition of Rule Britannia (their music editor apparently can’t comprehend why it is unsuitable for re-enactment situations), so I had Amazon send a copy of Thomas Arne’s Alfred to my girlfriend who, far from not liking it, now uses it as background music when she works and has even admitted to singing along. [The eighteenth century masque Alfred ends with a famous piece of music that turned Handel green with envy, and should have become England’s national anthem].

I bought a copy of Deutsche Grammophon’s double cd of German and Austrian marches (Herbert von Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic). I was hoping for extensive program notes, but there weren’t any. There were, however, a few surprising attributions which, considering the source, are going to be very hard to argue with. This cd has a few of the pieces you need (e.g. anything written by Frederick the Great), but doesn’t really do the trick.

My breakthrough came when I managed to find and reinstall my old Talonsoft Battleground Waterloo and Prelude to Waterloo games. To my surprise and delight they can run on WindowsXP, and they really do have much better graphics and production values than the new games. The Prussian music in Waterloo is so-so, but there’s a real treasure trove in PTW. There’s a lot of other good stuff in there as well (including something that sounds Hanoverian, not to mention some great bagpipe music), but that’s not exactly Prussian.

For better of for worse AGEOD allows the posting of mods to their own website. All of the performances of the pieces that I have mentioned are fairly recent (within the last 30 years) so all their IP issues are fully in force. I would suggest buying some of the cd’s that I have mentioned and using them as a music source. (They’ll need to be converted from wav to mp3 but that’s fairly trivial).

And as noted in other threads, parts of Beethoven go very well with the Napoleonic period.

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