ACW 1.16 QwikFixes = Updated September 23, 2011

[lodilefty]

Hi Lodilefty, what I meant is that I have built depots with a heavily damaged supply wagon, ie with less than 50% strength, particularly with 33% strength (1/3), IIRC.

May have been a bug in older versions.

...and it's an Average of 50% I think.......

[lodilefty]

The MaxLevel for Depots in AACW is = 1, so you can't build a higher level.

Note that a level 2+ can be defined (built) in a setup or event.

Note 2: Max level defined in WIA = 3, NCP = 1, RUS = 4, RoP = 4. VGN has a rather more complex structure system....

Upon further review, there is a "build bigger" bug in other games.

In AACW, build max = 1 will stay as is unless there is playtesting to show that it needs to be higher...

[Ethan]

Look at this, here I show you a picture of a supply wagon. Most of them are damaged like this, except those which I buy as reinforcements. And I have never had troubles to build depots with supply wagons such as this (so damaged).

[Ethan]

May have been a bug in older versions.

...and it's an Average of 50% I think.......

Look at this, here I show you a picture of a supply wagon. Most of them are damaged like this, except those which I buy as reinforcements. And I have never had troubles to build depots with supply wagons such as this (so damaged).

PS: Anyway, thank you very much for the info, Lodi!

[lodilefty]

Look at this, here I show you a picture of a supply wagon. Most of them are damaged like this, except those which I buy as reinforcements. And I have never had troubles to build depots with supply wagons such as this (so damaged).

Well, then your previous builds were a bug!

Those wagons are clearly <50%, and thus WAD to not build a depot.

...and there is no easy way for us to "go back" to an earlier vesrion. We will pursue this in the 1.16 patch developments, where the rule will be:
"4 supply-type elements at >50% strength, max in-game build level = 1"

[W.Barksdale]

Wow! Good to see you lads are still working on this gem! I will have to try out the lastest version soon as I can!

[Baris]

Upon further review, there is a "build bigger" bug in other games.

In AACW, build max = 1 will stay as is unless there is playtesting to show that it needs to be higher...

It was indeed , depot can be built up to 4th level in Both ROP and RUS game for a long time. But lets forget about nostalgia and return to actual play testing. Were you able to look at my saves about MC and turn freezing after battle. Just to speed things up for RUS and ROP hotfixes .

[Cdr. McBragg]

I have built depots with a heavily damaged supply wagon, ie with less than 50% strength, particularly with 33% strength (1/3), IIRC.

In 1.15 you could build a depot with wagons of 1/3 strength, for example the wagons that appear with the Union Patterson Force in May 61, which could be used the same turn they appeared.

[lodilefty]

Unfortunately there is still a freeze after a battle, no battle and no freeze. OS is win 7 32 bit.

Another thing is as that was the case in RUS for months there is a delay for gaining MC in a captured region(Most probably because of PON exe,). Harbour, city and ships captured and there is still disputed ownership after 2 turns.(Even Norfolk home militia formed ) Contradicts with the F10 objective screen that Norfolk is in Confederate hands.


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Battle freeze is still elusive, but not forgotten: it is somewhat dificult to get it to consistently repeat on differrent users installations....
AFAIK, if you turn off Animation and Pause after Battle, you can play on OK. I also had some success disabling my realtime malware checker, and/or playing fullscreen vs. windowed with border....

The MC looks like a 'feature' courtesy of the AGE shared with PON (as the devs tell me will shall have herein)

= The Objective is the City Structure, which is owned by CSA and it has an adequate garrison to claim control where the region is not controlled (regular infantry in the Garrison Group). So I think this is WAD.
.
= Region ownership is changing slowly as you occupy it. This may well be the new WAD (personally, I like it = regions represent a rather large area, and it takes some time for a smalll force like the Suffolk Militia to "tame" the region)

[Baris]

The MC looks like a 'feature' courtesy of the AGE shared with PON (as the devs tell me will shall have herein)

= The Objective is the City Structure, which is owned by CSA and it has an adequate garrison to claim control where the region is not controlled (regular infantry in the Garrison Group). So I think this is WAD.
.
= Region ownership is changing slowly as you occupy it. This may well be the new WAD (personally, I like it = regions represent a rather large area, and it takes some time for a smalll force like the Suffolk Militia to "tame" the region)

Thanks. It is ok if WAD, I wondered about it.
There are militia units with few patrol values indeed but does the city or harbour also increase MC faster upon capturing ?

Now this riddle is solved! here is your cup for your answer
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=19896

[Ethan]

In 1.15 you could build a depot with wagons of 1/3 strength, for example the wagons that appear with the Union Patterson Force in May 61, which could be used the same turn they appeared.

Indeed. I currently play with 1.15 patch and so far I have not had problems to build depots with heavily damaged supply wagons, as is the case of Patterson's wagons.

Anyway, according to Lodilefty this has been a bug from older versions.

[charlesonmission]

Hi there,

Okay, I'm searching for the rules on which units can take different cities and regions in 1.16. Has anyone seen this? I had a cavalry division "sieging" Denver for a few months to no avail, despite having 100% control of the region, Denver was still in Union hands. This was 1861/1862.

Charles

[GraniteStater]

This is WAD for a while now. Early cavalry cannot take structures. Mid-, late war cavalry can. Mouseover the unit(s). If "Early Cav" is displayed, it cannot take a structure.

Implemented to tone down Raidathons.

[Baris]

I think with the new exe there were not any differentiation between militia,cavalry ,inf taking control of the objective city. At least it was the case in RUS. Did you check it ?

[Ethan]

Anyway, I guess you can check it in the ACW Updates file in the AGEOD's American Civil War folder.

From 1.14 patch: "4.) Implemented a new attribute provided by Pocus (*NoCapture*). Early game horse mounted units can no longer take control of city structures. Once cavalry upgrades to (Late) cavalry (around early 1863), this restriction is lifted. In other words, you will have to accompany invading forces with non horse mounted units if you wish to take control of city structures during this early game period. To clarify: this only applies to city structures, NOT standalone depots/harbors."

Has this changed in 1.16 patch and posterior Quickfixes?

Regards!

[charlesonmission]

Based on my experience in Denver, certainly not. However, I think cavalry units can still attack forces inside a structure, they just can't take over the city.

Anyways, I like the rule.

Charles

Anyway, I guess you can check it in the ACW Updates file in the AGEOD's American Civil War folder.

From 1.14 patch: "4.) Implemented a new attribute provided by Pocus (*NoCapture*). Early game horse mounted units can no longer take control of city structures. Once cavalry upgrades to (Late) cavalry (around early 1863), this restriction is lifted. In other words, you will have to accompany invading forces with non horse mounted units if you wish to take control of city structures during this early game period. To clarify: this only applies to city structures, NOT standalone depots/harbors."

Has this changed in 1.16 patch and posterior Quickfixes?

Regards!

[Pat "Stonewall" Cleburne]

Is there a way to uninstall the quickfix without having to reinstall everything? I'm having some pretty serious freezing issues and I think there might be a bug with entrenchments. Not to mention the battle pause bug.

[Baris]

Battle freeze is still elusive, but not forgotten: it is somewhat dificult to get it to consistently repeat on differrent users installations....
AFAIK, if you turn off Animation and Pause after Battle, you can play on OK. I also had some success disabling my realtime malware checker, and/or playing fullscreen vs. windowed with border....

I'm having some pretty serious freezing issues and I think there might be a bug with entrenchments. Not to mention the battle pause bug.

Lodilefty, it seems turn freeze after battle is rather long process to have a solution. In my game with Narwhal and in other ageod games I have played it wasn't a problem before. If the process would take longer time, could it possible you publish for quick fix for ammo bug only(without trying to fix pause after battle) and maybe single supply wagon building a depot if the disease passed to other games , thanks

[Ethan]

Is there a way to uninstall the quickfix without having to reinstall everything? I'm having some pretty serious freezing issues and I think there might be a bug with entrenchments. Not to mention the battle pause bug.

Hi Pat,

I may be saying a nonsense , but comes to my head a couple of things... have you tried to install 1.16RC4a patch over the quickfix installation? Maybe you get back to the 1.16RC4a point. You can also try to restore the system to the date that the installation of the quickfix was done.

[lodilefty]

Hi Pat,

I may be saying a nonsense , but comes to my head a couple of things... have you tried to install 1.16RC4a patch over the quickfix installation? Maybe you get back to the 1.16RC4a point. You can also try to restore the system to the date that the installation of the quickfix was done.

This should work (rerun 1.15rc4 patch)

Still working on freezes

[Cdr. McBragg]

I'm currently playing 1.16rc4 with quickfix 2 against the AI, and have not seen freezes or any other problems. I installed 1.16rc4 over 1.15, then installed quickfix 2. I never installed quickfix 1.

[richfed]

Wondering ... Gray Lensman had a HotFix for the 1.16 RC4 release. It addressed a river issue in Texas and maybe something else. Is that in any way incorporated in these fixes or the patch itself?

[Ethan]

Wondering ... Gray Lensman had a HotFix for the 1.16 RC4 release. It addressed a river issue in Texas and maybe something else. Is that in any way incorporated in these fixes or the patch itself?

Is this what you mean, richfed?

[lodilefty]

Is this what you mean, richfed?

I can't decipher the thread cited to see what the bug was.

Can one of you summarize what needs/needed fixing with the Texas River?

The latest data I've got os as of December 12, 2010

[Ethan]

It was a bug that was mentioned by Jim-NC and apparently was forgotten, or at least, I didn't hear it again. In my previous post appears what was posted by Jim. And I think richfed was asking about it.

[richfed]

Is this what you mean, richfed?

Yes ...

I have the .zip file with the fix saved on my computer, if it's needed.

[Jim-NC]

There is a problem with the river connection points. It does not connect with the ocean, so ships can move into the river, but they can't move out.

[lodilefty]

Yes ...

I have the .zip file with the fix saved on my computer, if it's needed.

YES! Please upload here!

[richfed]

Here you go ...

[lodilefty]

Here you go ...

Got it! Will add to next update.

[color="Red"]It is OK to run this HotFix "on top" of the latest QwikFix.[/color]
(It only changes 2 region files)