Jagger
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Cohesion and battle results

Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:27 pm

I know cohesion is included in modeling of units but is cohesion actually used during battles to determine combat results? If so, what role does it play in determing combat results?

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Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:59 am

this is used for morale checks, ie when the units has a too low cohesion, and when taking hits, it can rout.
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Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:29 pm

Thanks Pocus.

So anytime a unit suffers a hit, cohesion is subtracted from the units base cohesion as determined by the attacking units cohesion DamDone or AsltDamDone values.

Once the damaged units cohesion is reduced, then a morale check is performed based on the reduced cohesion value? Is this correct?

If the unit fails the morale check, I assume the unit or specific element withdraws from battle.

Once a unit or specific element retreats from battle, can the unit still suffer damage?

In the living rules thread, Troop Quality is discussed:

Shaken: An element is considered shaken for a given round if it has sustained losses and fails a morale check. To pass a moral check you have to roll a 10-sided dice equal or less your TQ (troop quality).


It sounds as if both Troop Quality and Cohesion are used in determining the morale loss resulting in a retreat or rout. Are either cohesion or the TQ used to determine if a unit is shaken? Which is used to determine if a unit actually retreats/routs? I am a little unclear how this works.

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Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:58 am

Oops, I just saw we are in the BOA forum! There is no cohesion in BOA, until BOA gold... so the things are simpler here.

TQ = Troop Quality. It is used for the Shaken test. There is no cohesion, so there is no routing rule. A troop only retreat when ordered by his leader to do so.

In AACW, there is cohesion. TQ is renamed Discipline but is the same as TQ.

Current Cohesion is used to make a morale check. If failed, the element rout.
Discipline is used in the Shaken test and for assault.
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