Questions about attrition & reinforcement

[Hidde]

Hi
I'm playing Americans in the 1775 campaign.
First attrition: doesn't a besieging army suffer attrition during the siege? Philadelphia was besieged for four month during winter by a small army including only two units and (if I remember correctly) one supply. The two regiments only suffered max. 10 and 2 damage respectively during that period. Also, one indian unit besieging one of my forts 3 or 4 winter month only went from 17 to 15 in strength while the defending unit was annihilated from lack of supply.
Second: in April I get messages that I've gotten reinforcments in six different places. When I check they all turn out to be supply. Two of them with a leader but nothing else. I have a lot of leaders but few troops even though I haven't lost more than a couple of units in battle. My three main armies looks like this:
Command usage/Maximal command - 6/10 5/18 8/26. My smaller armies have no command penalties.
Haven't played the Americans before and maybe this is the way it is for a poor rebel . It's also my first try with very hard setting if that has anything to do with it.

[blackbellamy]

Difficulty setting shouldn't affect your own reinforcements, only those of the enemy (basically comes down to 2 extra regiments per year per level above normal).

[Pocus]

For the siege of Philadelphia, the supply can have prevented much hits, and perhaps resplenished from turn to turn if the english had a town nearby.

[Gresbeck]

Does attrition depend on the size of the army located in a region? I mean, is the supply value of a region divided between the units located in the same region?

[Pocus]

Attrition depends on the combination of terrain & weather. This lead to either a normal, harsh or very harsh weather type.
If the weather type is harsh or very harsh, then your armies will take a % of their max health in hits, with supplies units preventing some (if they have a suppy stock!)

What a region gives to units is not relevant here. The supply given by a region will resplenish partially of fully the units there, including the supplies trains (so that they can shield you from bad weather for the next turn, etc.).

[Hidde]

Pocus, that was certainly the case around Philadelphia.
But what about the indian warband? They were besieging Point Pleasant right in the middle of nowhere.
Truth is, there have been several things during this campaign that I find a bit odd. In October or November 1775 an American army consisting of one leader,one siege gun and one supply materialized outside Ticonderoga . The region was Brittish at the time and there was even troops inside the fort. No mention of this reinforcment in the message box, either.
At one point a bateaux seemed to just vanish but I can't be sure.
I've counted all my forces and there is 26 leaders with a maximal command of 72 for 32 unlocked units(21 fighting and 11 supply). I suppose some militia will show up as it is April(1776) but I find those numbers somewhat strange. There is more that I don't recall right now.
My point is that I never encountered anything that I found puzzling like this when I played the same campaign as the Britts.
Is it only strange in my head?

[Pocus]

strange can either means that you don't have all the infos to render the situation normal, from your point of view .... or that you have found bugs.

For the indians: if you have your savegame with them still besieging, you can send it to me (the whole saved game, = the current turn and the backups, in a nice ZIP archive) to support@ageod.com , I have no problem checking another time my code so that everything runs as expected

for the others points, same thing. Describe me in a mail where the problem is, send me a save, and I can check. For militia, the drafting will start soon, so you should have some in 1776 (and its normal to not have them in 75).

The bateaux could have been land locked or something (the lake freeze, you loose the harbor, thus it is destroyed, etc.). I will need a save again.

[Gresbeck]

What a region gives to units is not relevant here. The supply given by a region will resplenish partially of fully the units there, including the supplies trains (so that they can shield you from bad weather for the next turn, etc.).

1. So if I have two adjacent regions, each with a supply value of 7, and I have an army with six units, there is no reason (as far as it concerns supply) to split the army in two armies with three units each, and to move them into different regions. My army gets the same amount of supply moving with all of its six units into the same region.
2. If 1 is right, is it realistic? I would assume a region can give a fix amount of supply, and the more are the units located in a region, the less is the supply got by each unit.

[Pocus]

supply don't works like that. Each region produce some supplies chips, who are in turn given to units in the vicinity to resplenish their stock. The stock is then used by the units to sustain themselves. There is no cheap trick that will enable you to generate more supplies in a given set of region, or other things like that.

[Hidde]

I've only have the last turn saved, I'm afraid and nothing happend then. I'll try to remember to save if something more turns up.
Taken one by one it wasn't much to fuss about but I was began wondering when more "incidents" occured.
Anyhow, don't want to disturb you in your work with the next patch

[Pocus]

huhu, I can't do much code in week-end, my family want me
But I can reply to the forum...

[blackbellamy]

But what about the indian warband? They were besieging Point Pleasant right in the middle of nowhere.

Indians have supply usage of 1 and supply store of 5, the best values out of any combat unit. Expect them to last a long while.

In October or November 1775 an American army consisting of one leader,one siege gun and one supply materialized outside Ticonderoga . The region was Brittish at the time and there was even troops inside the fort. No mention of this reinforcment in the message box, either.

There should have been a message saying Knox arrives or something. I see it every time. Some reinforcements will arrive in one of several regions as long as it's controlled, others like Knox are set to arrive in specific region no matter what.

I've counted all my forces and there is 26 leaders with a maximal command of 72 for 32 unlocked units(21 fighting and 11 supply). I suppose some militia will show up as it is April(1776) but I find those numbers somewhat strange.

Every so often you will get regular and militia reinforcements and train militia into regulars. Keep your charismatic leaders in control of all armies that contain militia during the crucial December turn and constantly look to jump on smaller British forces so you can gain crucial experience. If you don't throw your guys away in silly large battles by 78 or 79 you should have built up a solid core army and along with the French you should have easy regional superiority.

[Hidde]

Some reinforcements will arrive in one of several regions as long as it's controlled, others like Knox are set to arrive in specific region no matter what.

Yeah, I overlooked that.

If you don't throw your guys away in silly large battles by 78 or 79 you should have built up a solid core army and along with the French you should have easy regional superiority.

As I said I've only played the Brittish side before and I think that maybe I felt a bit confused due to the fact it is so different to play as Americans. It's autum 1776 know and I'm runing from superior Brittsh forces all over the map.
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