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american navy

Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:51 pm

i know that the americans had a "navy" during the war consisting of only a few ships. Because i know that during the revolution that a samll navy was created consisting of 5 ships and that continential marines did capture the bahamas from the british in 1776 and that there were successful raids in parts of Nova Scotia and even teh british coast but the main threat to the Royal Navy was the privateering done by the americans so i was wondering if it is at least possible for the americans to build piravteer ships or if the americans just use the french ships whenever they join???

thanks sorry for the long question
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:07 am

You will get the courageous John Paul Jones (the sig I have is a famous quote from him) along with the Bonhomme Richard and a blockade runner squadron in march 76. If you loose them, they can get replaced 2 times with new ships (historical ships like the Insurgent or Independence).

Also when the French entry date approach, you should get some artillery units from the French. Some are deployed directly in American harbors, some will need you to get them from the French West Indies. This is where your stealthy blockade runner get handy ;)
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Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:30 pm

thanks man yeah im looking forward to taking it to the royal navy the best i can im really interested in using privateers to raid small groups of ships
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Problems w/ Blockade Runners

Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:49 am

I've been able to load units onto my bateaux, and onto the Chesapeake transport flotilla, but I have failed when attempting to load either supply units or infantry regiments onto the Continental Navy's blockade runners; is there any reason for this problem? I'd have thought that a supply unit would have no problem getting loaded aboard a blockade runner squadron...

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Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:10 am

There is a weight associated with each unit, and a load capacity associated with each ship. You can get these informations from the tooltips or on the unit panel.
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Continental Navy

Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:45 pm

Hi, my first post on this forum.

Regarding the American Continental Navy;
As I recall reading -America did build, equip, and put to sea - some 13 Frigates for the Continental Navy between1776 and 1778. I believe 5 were 32's, 5 were 28's, one was a 36..(can't recall the rest in detail). This is above and beyond purchased ships from France.
Most of these ships did not accomplish much - several were captured right away.
But the point is, it would be very nice to add these to the game - to give some options to the American player and to give a little concern to the British player...as they did in real life.

Brian

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Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:47 pm

You get a blockade runner counter with light ships in them, and replacements if you loose them, so this is accounted. Also we have not added one ship for each warship used during the war, there is an abstraction here (like 1 to 3 warships for each element of a squadron, so a counter can represents from 4 to 10 warships average).
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John Paul Jones didn'nt say that!

Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:48 pm

[quote="Pocus"]You will get the courageous John Paul Jones (the sig I have is a famous quote from him) along with the Bonhomme Richard and a blockade runner squadron in march 76. If you loose them, they can get replaced 2 times with new ships (historical ships like the Insurgent or Independence).

Also when the French entry date approach, you should get some artillery units from the French. Some are deployed directly in American harbors, some will need you to get them from the French West Indies. This is where your stealthy blockade runner get handy ]

Not to be picky Pocus (Im new here so sorry if this sounds funny) but John Paul Jones did not say 'Damn the Torpedoes, full speed ahead!' That was Admiral Farragut during the Union attack on New Orleans in the American Civil War.
What John Paul Jones is famous for saying is "I have not yet begun to fight"

Im not being pedantic I just thought Id point that out. :nuts:

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Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:01 pm

No problem, my sig changed when we unrevealed the subject of the 2nd game :)

It was 'I have not yet begun to fight' for many months in 2006, really.
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Woops Sorry bout that

Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:19 pm

Ah right, i didnt realise that, I was wondering because with the level of detail in your games I would've been very surprised if you hadn't known that.
Absolutely loving BoA by the way :king: bought it last night off Steam, just what Ive been looking for, Im actually jaded playing MTW2 for the last week, looks great but a bit disappointing.
Cheers :innocent:

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Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:52 pm

Johnnyred,

Welcome to the forum. I hope that you enjoy the game.

Farragut's quote was actually from the battle of Mobile Bay, not New Orleans.
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