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okay so my question is what is the function of combining a General and one other unit using the combine feature....not using the enable division command its seems to me you can only add one unit to the general and i am not sure what its really used for...anyone?

MkollCSA wrote:okay so my question is what is the function of combining a General and one other unit using the combine feature....not using the enable division command its seems to me you can only add one unit to the general and i am not sure what its really used for...anyone?

You are making a brigade which might take on the Generals name. A brigade does in most istances as far as I can - reduce penalties on your force.So it does have some use?

The brigade elements will have a +3% extra power per offensve and defensive ability point of the attached leader. And this adds up with the +5%/per point the stack leader gives.
Then you have the gamey reason: for what i know, brigaded (or division) leaders can't became casualties
Regards!

they can!

arsan wrote:The brigade elements will have a +3% extra power per offensve and defensive ability point of the attached leader. And this adds up with the +5%/per point the stack leader gives.
Then you have the gamey reason: for what i know, brigaded (or division) leaders can't became casualties
Regards!

well that all sounds good...but the problem is you can only use one brigade and its either cav or infantry from what i have seen so far....if this is the case you would need several generals to get them all under control....i was going to make some real world uses out of them if you could put them into brigade type units of more then just one unit....since in the civil war...more often than not...a 1 Star (Brigadier General) Were the brigade Commanders and 2 Stars (Major General) were Division Commanders and 3 stars (Lieutenant General) Were Corps Commanders and 4 stars (General) were the Army Commanders....of course there are exceptions on both sides more so on the union were early in the war Major Generals were in charge of the Armies and Colonels were Brigade Commanders...thats one thing tho i was kind of dissapointed about this game.....just wish it could be made to resemble the real command chain.

Use your 2 stars for corps command, not for division.

1 stars are for division command, but... sometimes they can not have one, then attach to a brigade is ok.

. . . and do become casualities!

Coregonas wrote:Use your 2 stars for corps command, not for division.

1 stars are for division command, but... sometimes they can not have one, then attach to a brigade is ok.

heh dont worry i do as the game wants me to and use my 1 stars for division and 2 stars for corps and 3 stars for army command....the only thing is that isnt how it goes in real life...which is what i was saying.....just some minor historical things and actually the way things work now.

I don't take the stars in the game to literally reflect general officer grades of the Civil War. I read them as an indication of the in-game command level for which the general in question is qualified, i.e. * = 1st level, division; ** = 2nd level, corps; *** = 3rd level, army. It would probably have been better to take a different symbol just to avoid that confusion (stripes? chevrons?), but I suppose stars just come naturally to most of us, for this purpose.

And btw, the modern system of one star = brigade, two stars = division etc. works for neither side in the ACW. The Union had no higher rank than major general before the rank of lieutenant general was created for Grant in 1864, and it never had full general during the war; so its corps and armies were led by major generals. And the CSA had the full system, but did not differentiate them with stars.

Heldenkaiser wrote:I don't take the stars in the game to literally reflect general officer grades of the Civil War. I read them as an indication of the in-game command level for which the general in question is qualified, i.e. * = 1st level, division; ** = 2nd level, corps; *** = 3rd level, army. It would probably have been better to take a different symbol just to avoid that confusion (stripes? chevrons?), but I suppose stars just come naturally to most of us, for this purpose.

And btw, the modern system of one star = brigade, two stars = division etc. works for neither side in the ACW. The Union had no higher rank than major general before the rank of lieutenant general was created for Grant in 1864, and it never had full general during the war; so its corps and armies were led by major generals. And the CSA had the full system, but did not differentiate them with stars.

that is a good point...as Lee himself commonly wore the insignia for a Colonel anyways...it was more of a "Hey thats General Longstreet, I know he is a Lieutenant General" Being in the military myself its easy for me to think in terms of ranks and the whole military organization of things, so its one reason i bring up these points....just second nature to see what i am thinking of as a 1 star General Leading a Division and go "hmm thats usually not the case" so thats part of it i am sure.

[quote="MkollCSA"]well that all sounds good...but the problem is you can only use one brigade and its either cav or infantry from what i have seen so far....if this is the case you would need several generals to get them all under control....i was going to make some real world uses out of them if you could put them into brigade type units of more then just one unit....

Keep in mind the magic 8 pts of command for a Div If you assign a second general who is lower on the promotion list than the commander and this second Gen. has a Strat. rating of 3 or higher you will get the * command pts. and can add a second unit to the Div.

I am right about this arn't I guys?

Madgamer

Heldenkaiser wrote:The Union had no higher rank than major general before the rank of lieutenant general was created for Grant in 1864

Winfield Scott was a brevet LG. Actual rank was Major General, but he was entitled to be addressed as a Lieutenant General.

I learn something new every day.

My only problem is that I have tried to get any and every 1-star general in some of my stacks to create a division but many won't do it. They need to be in a stack with a corp leader most of the time to do so. Otherwise there is some penalty cost to enable them to build a detached division.

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MkollCSA wrote:well that all sounds good...but the problem is you can only use one brigade and its either cav or infantry from what i have seen so far....if this is the case you would need several generals to get them all under control....i was going to make some real world uses out of them if you could put them into brigade type units of more then just one unit....since in the civil war...more often than not...a 1 Star (Brigadier General) Were the brigade Commanders and 2 Stars (Major General) were Division Commanders and 3 stars (Lieutenant General) Were Corps Commanders and 4 stars (General) were the Army Commanders....of course there are exceptions on both sides more so on the union were early in the war Major Generals were in charge of the Armies and Colonels were Brigade Commanders...thats one thing tho i was kind of dissapointed about this game.....just wish it could be made to resemble the real command chain.

Grant and perhaps Sherman were the only 4 star generals during the war. Union armies were commanded by 3 stars, corps by 2-3 stars divisions usually by 2 stars and brigades by 1 star and colonels.