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i have been playing as the csa, very badly as it happens and have had the aonv and two sep corps attached to that army completley wiped out, my question concerns the generals who have all appeared at nearby citys whilst all of the troops i assume are dead,deserted or captured, how does that work, why are they not captured or at least some percentage of them. It doesnt seem right/realistic or am i wrong

keith wrote:i have been playing as the csa, very badly as it happens and have had the aonv and two sep corps attached to that army completley wiped out, my question concerns the generals who have all appeared at nearby citys whilst all of the troops i assume are dead,deserted or captured, how does that work, why are they not captured or at least some percentage of them. It doesnt seem right/realistic or am i wrong

I think that there is some code in the game that prevents a leader in 'combined' mode [Army leader, Corps leader, Division leader or combined with Brigade] getting killed. This was put in to protect the AI from having command fiascos that it couldn't sort out.

So these leaders survive, should be with reduced seniority.

It's a pity, but i undestand the necessity of this in order to not upset poor Athena.
But, could not this be made applicable only to the AI??
The human player is resourcefull enough to handle this and with the redoployment button one can bring a susbtitute leader pretty soon.
Loosing your army/corps or division commander would be an "interesting" event for the player, IMHO...

i am no expert in this, but i agree that this should only apply to the ai, i have so few man and so many gens that poor old gen lee in charge of a laundry detail, jackson doing the washing up and longstreet doing the ironing !!!

keith wrote:i am no expert in this, but i agree that this should only apply to the ai, i have so few man and so many gens that poor old gen lee in charge of a laundry detail, jackson doing the washing up and longstreet doing the ironing !!!

At least you could put Lee in command of the 1167th Independent Mess Kit Repair Battalion.....

thinking about it i have decided to sack all of those aonv gens who let me down to a little swamp hut in southern florida and carrying on without them, i am in spring 64 and have lost virginia but hold all of the missisipi from new orleans to island ten, forts d and h and nashville, should make it more fun

btw can u disable this for pbem play

lodilefty wrote:I think that there is some code in the game that prevents a leader in 'combined' mode [Army leader, Corps leader, Division leader or combined with Brigade] getting killed. This was put in to protect the AI from having command fiascos that it couldn't sort out.

So these leaders survive, should be with reduced seniority.

There is a chance that 1* generals can be killed in any combat. If your entire army is destroyed as in your case, then there is a chance that your 3* and 2* generals may also be killed.

Le Ricain wrote:There is a chance that 1* generals can be killed in any combat. If your entire army is destroyed as in your case, then there is a chance that your 3* and 2* generals may also be killed.

Even if they are commanding a division??
I don't remember any case... as this will suppose that the division is disbanded.
I fear the same happen with corps/armies leaders with the result that only "independent" leaders can be harmed.

Besides, i thought 2* could be killed normally as 1* could... i'm i wrong?
Regards

arsan wrote:Even if they are commanding a division??
I don't remember any case... as this will suppose that the division is disbanded.
I fear the same happen with corps/armies leaders with the result that only "independent" leaders can be harmed.

Besides, i thought 2* could be killed normally as 1* could... i'm i wrong?
Regards

somebody [I think it was runyan99] did a test with a extremely low 'hit value' for commanders in combat. Result was nobody running a Division or Army got killed. Not sure if Corps command 'protects' a leader....

..and per documentation, 2* get 'hit' at a reduced frequency, 3* not at all.

lodilefty wrote:somebody [I think it was runyan99] did a test with a extremely low 'hit value' for commanders in combat. Result was nobody running a Division or Army got killed. Not sure if Corps command 'protects' a leader....

..and per documentation, 2* get 'hit' at a reduced frequency, 3* not at all.

This somehow doesn't seem right.... wasn't Lee appointed to ANV since Beauregard got wounded?

Also, what was the rank of the guy who immortalized himself with 'Are you kidding me? they couldn't hit an elephant from that distance!' (a Union general complaining to his troops that they were taking cover from Confederate snipers who, in his opinion, were far away and no threat. As he was the only man standing up, he promptly took a bullet in the head from a Conferderate sniper.)

Do generals ever get wounded even if they win a battle?

MarkCSA wrote:This somehow doesn't seem right.... wasn't Lee appointed to ANV since Beauregard got wounded?

Joseph E. Johnston was wounded at Fair Oaks, passing the command of the ANV to Bobby Lee, that's right.

Also, what was the rank of the guy who immortalized himself with 'Are you kidding me? they couldn't hit an elephant from that distance!' (a Union general complaining to his troops that they were taking cover from Confederate snipers who, in his opinion, were far away and no threat. As he was the only man standing up, he promptly took a bullet in the head from a Conferderate sniper.)

That was "Papa" John Sedgwick, commanding the VI Corps to his death at Spotsylvania C.H. which occurred as you describe.

But Sedgwick was an extreme exception to a rule that seems to indicate that, statistically, brigade commanders had a high chance, division commanders a fair chance, and corps commanders a really really low chance to become a casualty in the ACW. A. S. Johnston probably was the only army commander killed in battle in this conflict, and this only because he was behaving really stupid.

Do generals ever get wounded even if they win a battle?

You mean in the game or in history? If the latter, Wolfe at Quebec comes to mind as an example of a general who even died winning.

Other examples of corps commander losses in the ACW: Joseph K. Mansfield at Antietam; Thomas J. Jackson at Chancellorsville; John Reynolds at Gettysburg; J.E.B. Stuart at Yellow Tavern; Leonidas Polk at Pine Mountain.

Heldenkaiser wrote:Other examples of corps commander losses in the ACW: Joseph K. Mansfield at Antietam; Thomas J. Jackson at Chancellorsville; John Reynolds at Gettysburg; J.E.B. Stuart at Yellow Tavern; Leonidas Polk at Pine Mountain.

And those are just the guys killed, not only wounded. My point being: I think the game is a little easy on generals, I would like to see more of them wounded (taken out for a few turns a la Forge of Freedom)/killed. This would also open up a possibility to replace bad ones without suffering a VP/NM penalty. You could even add a third category for guys shot up so badly, that they retire from active command (no VP/NM loss, but removed).

P.S. I just love that Sedgwick story. I think it should be an event in the game that gives NM.

MarkCSA wrote:And those are just the guys killed, not only wounded.

Well, killed or mortally wounded. Jackson died of wounds a few days later, and I believe Mansfield too. BTW I believe A.P. Hill was shot dead at Petersburg a few days before the end of the war.

But I do agree on your point, in principle. I just think that if the game assigns higher ranking generals a comparatively much lower chance of becoming a casualty than lower ranking ones, the designers have a point.

Its a tough one game-wise i think, as though many many generals did in fact get KIA's or WIA'd then if this happened in the game then the divisions and corps they commanded would fall apart in structure. This would take alot of teleporting and maneuvering to get a new general to the right place to take over and it could be 2-3 turns before the division got a new leader. What does the division do in the meantime? Totally stalled? Disintergrates? Operates with a penalty? None really appealing game-wise I think.

In reality a second in command would take over and lead the day out. When Jackson fell JEB Stuart took over and apparently fought as a corps commander well. But in game terms a fallen general cant replicate this relatively seamless change of command. Remember the military command structure is designed to deal with commanders becoming casualties but its difficult to see how it can be easily fitted into the current game mechanisms.

Also if generals did fall non-historically then maybe this might have led to new even better generals emerging... who knows? I would be inclined to stick with the current system, and accept that most generals will survive unless their entire command is wiped out or surrenders. Given the randomess of Jackson death by his own sentries then it makes a interesting enough 'what if' that he usually survives here. Stuart or Forrest could easily die if they are too bold with their raids, but to have other generals fall disrupts the balance of forces far greater than their real impact on the command structure would have actually been in my opinion, though sure some will disagree.

MarkCSA wrote:As he was the only man standing up, he promptly took a bullet in the head from a Conferderate sniper.

Trivia Question:

Who was that Confederate sniper? (best claimant)

Hint:

If you can figure out what unit he belonged to, that may help lead you to the name.

Jabberwock wrote:Trivia Question:

Who was that Confederate sniper? (best claimant)

Hint:

If you can figure out what unit he belonged to, that may help lead you to the name.

Well Jabberwock, i'm not a grognard as you are for sure, but i found this name after a little search :Sergeant Grace, 4th Georgia Infantry from 800 yards. But i couldn't see the connection between his name and the unit's name.

What's the prize?

arsan wrote:It's a pity, but i undestand the necessity of this in order to not upset poor Athena.
But, could not this be made applicable only to the AI??
The human player is resourcefull enough to handle this and with the redoployment button one can bring a susbtitute leader pretty soon.
Loosing your army/corps or division commander would be an "interesting" event for the player, IMHO...

Yes, i've probably never seen any generals who dies in a battle when combined with units. But once i've seen a general who died in a corps, who wasn't combined.

But, playing against Athena, i've seen a HQ unit totally destroyed a couple of times in the battlefield, which leaves her completely desperate. I think this also doesn't help her a lot (i had to reload the turns to be able to go on playing).

what about sieges? do commanders get pows? I encircled Johnston in Fredricksburg and held him bottled up (he tried to break out 5 times). His army of 62.000 surrendered - but I didn't notice if he was caught. It would be logical if a commander surrendered with his troops, and not teleported out (offcause he could sneak out unnoticed - but most of the times he should be caught).

Evren wrote:Well Jabberwock, i'm not a grognard as you are for sure, but i found this name after a little search :Sergeant Grace, 4th Georgia Infantry from 800 yards. But i couldn't see the connection between his name and the unit's name.

What's the prize?

Good guess. He is one of the contenders, but I've never read anything to back up his claim.

After doing a little more research, I realized that at least one other besides the one I was thinking of has an equally valid claim.

I put up the hint because I read an eyewitness account in a book about the unit.

Where did you find the information on Sgt. Grace?

Right now, the prize is bragging rights.

my original question was more about a mass surrender of my troops, aprox 119 elements on the battle report, which i think works out at 11900 men out of a force of 15 or 16 thousand the rest i assume being killed or missing. In these circumstances sureley the majority of the commanders would surrender also although i do accept that some would try to escape capture, ultimatley though i do understand that if it helps athena then the trade off is worth it. Hopefully one day the wise people at ageod could figure a way to solve this without compromising the ai.

Would it be impossible (for the game engine) in a situation where a higher commander becomes a casualty just to promote a (surviving) subordinate to the same spot? Obviously this would not apply to mass surrenders of entire corps, but otherwise if a corps commander is killed or captured, why not promote the Second-in-Command or a division commander?

Jabberwock wrote:Good guess. He is one of the contenders, but I've never read anything to back up his claim.

After doing a little more research, I realized that at least one other besides the one I was thinking of has an equally valid claim.

I put up the hint because I read an eyewitness account in a book about the unit.

Where did you find the information on Sgt. Grace?

Right now, the prize is bragging rights.

On the Sedgwick Spotsylvania Monument, the following inscription can be found:

THE DEATH OF SEDGWICK

Maj. Gen. John Sedgwick, commander of the Sixth Corps, was one of the most popular senior officers in the Army of the Potomac. On the morning of May 9, 1864, Sedgwick arrived here to direct some minor redeployment of his troops. Ignoring warnings from his chief-of-staff, Sedgwick stalked about admonishing his men to cease worrying about the occasional fire of Confederate sharpshooters concealed in the woodline far to your front. "I am ashamed of you. dodging that way," scolded Segdwick. "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." Shortly thereafter, a bullet slammed into the General's face, killing him almost instantly.

The shot that killed John Sedgwick, the highest-ranking Northern officer to die on a Civil War battlefield, came from a Whitworth rifle at a distance of more than 500 yards. The identity of the marksman who fired the fatal shot remains a mystery, although at least five Confederate soldiers later claimed responsibility.

Are you looking for the names of the remaining four, assuming that Grace was one of the five?

Le Ricain wrote:Are you looking for the names of the remaining four, assuming that Grace was one of the five?

Two, three, or four would be better than one. After I posted the question, I spotted the names two of the top contenders in a very easy-to-find place on the Web.

Jabberwock wrote:Two, three, or four would be better than one. After I posted the question, I spotted the names of the two top contenders in a very easy-to-find place on the Web.

I have found four of them:

Benjamin Medcus Powell 12 South Carolina
Thomas Burgess 15th South Carolina
'Kansas Tom' Johnson
Sgt Grace 4th Georgia

Below is a list of CSA generals who were killed during the ACW:

Confederate Generals Killed In The Civil War (72)

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ARMY COMMANDERS

General Albert Sydney Johnston Killed at Shiloh.

CORPS COMMANDERS

Lieutenant-General Thomas J. Jackson Killed at Chancellorsville.
Lieutenant-General Leonidas Polk , Killed at Pine Mountain.
Lieutenant-General Ambrose P. Hill, Killed at Fall of Petersburg.

DIVISION COMMANDERS

Major-General William D. Pender Killed at Gettysburg.
Major-General J. E. B. Stewart, Killed at Yellow Tavern.
Major-General W. H. Walker, Killed at Atlanta.
Major-General Robert E. Rodes, Killed at Opequon.
Major-General Stephen D. Ramseur, Killed at Cedar Creek.
Major-General Patrick R. Cleburne, Killed at Franklin.
Brigadier-General John Pegram, Killed at Hatcher's Run.

BRIGADE COMMANDERS

Brigadier-General Robert S. Garnett Killed at Cheat Mountain.
Brigadier-General Barnard E. Bee, Killed at First Bull Run.
Brigadier-General Francis S. Bartow, Killed at First Bull Run.
Brigadier-General Felix K. Zollicoffer, Killed at Mill Springs.
Brigadier-General Ben. McCulloch, Killed at Pea Ridge.
Brigadier-General James Mcintosh, Killed at Pea Ridge
Brigadier-General William Y. Slack, Killed at Pea Ridge.
Brigadier-General Adley H. Gladden, Killed at Shiloh.
Brigadier-General Robert Hatton, Killed at Fair Oaks.
Brigadier-General Turner Ashby, Killed at Harrisonburg.
Brigadier-General Richard Griffith, Killed at Savage Station.
Brigadier-General Charles S. Winder, Killed at Cedar Mountain.
Brigadier-General Samuel Garland, Jr, Killed at South Mountain.
Brigadier-General George B. Anderson, Killed at Antietam.
Brigadier-General L. O'B. Branch, Killed at Antietam.
Brigadier-General William E. Starke, Killed at Antietam.
Brigadier-General Henry Little, Killed at Iuka.
Brigadier-General Thomas R. Cobb, Killed at Fredericksburg.
Brigadier-General Maxcy Gregg, Killed at Fredericksburg.
Brigadier-General James E. Rains, Killed at Stone's River.
Brigadier-General Roger W. Hanson, Killed at Stone's River.
Brigadier-General E. D. Tracy, Killed at Port Gibson.
Brigadier-General E. F. Paxton, Killed at Chancellorsville.
Brigadier-General Lloyd Tilghman, Killed at Champion's Hill.
Brigadier-General Martin E. Green, Killed at Vicksburg.
Brigadier-General William Barksdale, Killed at Gettysburg.
Brigadier-General Lewis Armistead, Killed at Gettysburg.
Brigadier-General Richard B. Garnett, Killed at Gettysburg.
Brigadier-General Paul J. Semmes, Killed at Gettysburg.
Brigadier-General J. J. Pettigrew, Killed at Falling Waters.
Brigadier-General Preston Smith , Killed at Chickamauga.
Brigadier-General Benjamin H. Helm, Killed at Chickamauga.
Brigadier-General James Deshler, Killed at Chickamauga.
Brigadier-General Carnot Posey, Killed at Bristoe Station.
Brigadier-General Alfred Mouton, Killed at Sabine Cross Roads.
Brigadier. General Thomas Green, Killed at Pleasant Hill.
Brigadier-General W. R. Scurry, Killed at Jenkins Ferry.
Brigadier-General John M. Jones, Killed at Wilderness.
Brigadier-General Micah Jenkins, Killed at Wilderness.
Brigadier-General L. A. Stafford, Killed at Wilderness.
Brigadier-General Abner Perrin, Killed at Spotsylvania.
Brigadier-General Julius Daniel, Killed at Spotsylvania.
Brigadier-General James B. Gordon, Killed at Yellow Tavern.
Brigadier-General George Doles, Killed at Bethesda Church.
Brigadier-General W. E. Jones, Killed at Piedmont.
Brigadier-General C. H. Stevens, Killed at Peach Tree Creek.
Brigadier-General Samuel Benton, Killed at Ezra Church.
Brigadier-General John R. Chambliss, Jr, Killed at Deep Bottom.
Brigadier-General J. C. Saunders, Killed at Weldon Railroad.
Brigadier-General Robert H. Anderson, Killed at Jonesboro.
Brigadier-General John Morgan, Killed at Greenville, Tenn.
Brigadier-General Archibald C. Godwin, Killed at Opequon.
Brigadier-General John Dunnovant, Killed at Vaughn Road.
Brigadier-General John Gregg " Darbytown Road.
Brigadier-General Stephen Elliott, Jr., Killed at Petersburg.
Brigadier-General Victor J. Girardey, Killed at Petersburg.
Brigadier-General Archibald Gracie, Jr. Killed at Petersb'g Trenches.
Brigadier-General John Adams, Killed at Franklin.
Brigadier-General Oscar F. Strahl, Killed at Franklin.
Brigadier-General S. R. Gist, Killed at Franklin.
Brigadier-General H. B. Granberry, Killed at Franklin.
Brigadier-General James Dearing, Killed at High Bridge.

Union generals killed during the ACW:

Killed in Action--(38).
Died of Wounds Received in Action--(29).

Major-General Philip Kearney, killed Sept. 1, 1862, at Chantilly, Va.
Major-General Isaac I. Stevens, killed Sept. 1, 1862, at Chantilly, Va.
Major-General Jesse L. Reno, U. S. Volunteers, died Sept. 14, 1862, of wounds received in battle of South Mountain, Md.
Major-General Joseph K. F. Mansfield, U. S. Volunteers, died Sept. 18, 1862, of wounds received in battle of Antietam, Md.
Major-General Israel B. Richardson, U. S. Volunteers, died Nov. 3, 1862, at Sharpsburg, Md., of wounds received in battle of Antietam, Md
Major-General Hiram G. Berry, killed May 2, 1863, at Chancellorsville, Va.
Major-General Amiel W, Whipple, U. S. Volunteers, died May 7, 1863, at Washington, D.C., of wounds received at Chancellorsville, Md.
Major-General John F. Reynolds, killed July 1. 1863, at Gettysburg, Pa.
Major-General George C. Strong, U. S. Volunteers, died July 30, 1863, of wounds received in the assault on Fort Wagner, S. C.
Brevet Major-General Alex. Hays, U. S. Volunteers, killed May 5, 1864, at the Wilderness, Va.
Brevet Major-General James S. Wadsworth, U. S. Volunteers, killed May 6, 1864, at the Wilderness, Va.
Major-General John Sedgwick, U. S. Volunteers, killed May 9, 1864, at Spottsylvania Court-house, Va.
Major-General James B. McPherson, U. S. Volunteers, killed July 22, 1864, before Atlanta, Ga.
Brevet Major-General Frederick Winthrop, Colonel 5th New York Veteran Volunteers, killed April 1, 1865, at Five Forks, Va.

Brig.-General Wm. H. L. Wallace, U. S. Volunteers, died April 10, 1862, at Savannah, Tenn., of wounds received at Shiloh, Tenn.
Brig.-General Thomas Williams, killed Aug. 5, 1862, at Battle of Baton Rouge, La.
Brig -General Robert L. McCook, killed Aug. 6, 1862, near Dechard, Tenn., by guerillas.
Brig.-General Henry Bohlen, killed Aug. 22, 1862, at Freeman's Ford, Rappahannock River, Va.
Brig.-General George W. Taylor, U. S. Volunteers, died Aug. 31, 1862, at Alexandria, Va., of wounds received near Cub Run, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Thornton F. Broadhead, Colonel 1st Michigan Cavalry, died Sept. 2, 1862, of wounds received at Bull Run, Va
Brig.-General Isaac P. Rodman, U. S. Volunteers, died Sept. 30, 1862, of wounds received in battle of Antietam, Md.
Brig.-General Pleasant A. Hackelman, killed Oct. 3, 1862, at Corinth, Miss.
Brig.-General James S. Jackson, killed Oct. 8, 1862, at Perryville, Ky.
Brig.-General Wm. R. Terrill, killed Oct. 8, 1862, at Perryville, Ky.
Brig.-General Conrad Feger Jackson, killed Dec. 13, 1862, at Fredericksburg, Va.
Brig.-General George D. Bayard, U. S. Volunteers, died Dec. 14, 1862, of wounds received at the battle of Fredericksburg, Va.
Brig.-General Joshua W. Sill, killed Dec. 31, 1862, at Stone River, Tenn.
Brig.-General Edmund Kirby, U. S. Volunteers, died May 28, 1863, at Washington, D. C., of wounds received at Chancellorsville, Md
Brig.-General Stephen W. Weed, killed July 2, 1863, at Gettysburg, Pa.
Brevet Major-General S. K. Zook, killed July 2, 1863, at Gettysburg, Pa.
Brevet Brig.-General A. Van Horn Ellis, Colonel 124th N. Y. Volunteers, killed July 2, 1863, at Gettysburg, Pa.
Brevet Brig.-General George H. Ward, Colonel 15th Massachusetts Volunteers, died July 2, 1863, of wounds received at Gettysburg, Pa.
Brevet Brig.-General Paul Joseph Revere, Colonel 20th Massachusetts Volunteers, died July 5, 1863, of wounds received at Gettysburg, Pa.
Brevet Brig.-General Louis R. Francine, Colonel 7th New Jersey Volunteers, died July 16, 1863, of wounds received at Gettysburg, Pa.
Brig.-General Wm. H. Lytle, U. S. Volunteers, died Sept. 20, 1863, of wounds received at Chickamauga, Ga.
Brig.-General William P. Sanders, U. S. Volunteers, died Nov. 19, 1863, of wounds received before Knoxville, Tenn.
Brevet Brig.-General Lewis Benedict, Colonel 162d N. Y. Volunteers, killed April 9, 1864, at Port Hudson, La.
Brig.-General Thomas G. Stevenson, U. S. Volunteers, killed May 10, 1864, at Spottsylvania Court-house, Va.
Brig.-General James C. Rice, U. S. Volunteers, killed May 10, 1864, at Laurel Hill, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Wm. N. Green, Lt.-Colonel 173d New York Volunteers, died May 14, 1864, of wounds received in action.
Brevet Brig.-General Henry H. Giesy, Major 46th Ohio Volunteers, killed May 28, 1864, at Dallas, Ga.
Brevet Brig.-General John McConihe, Colonel 169th N. Y. Volunteers, killed June l, 1864, at Cold Harbor, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Arthur H. Dutton, Colonel 21st Connecticut Volunteers, died June 4, 1864, of wounds received in action.
Brevet Brig.-General Wm. H. Sackett, Colonel 9th New York Cavalry Volunteers, died June 10, 1864, of wounds received in action.
Brevet Brig.-General Thomas W. Humphrey, Colonel 95th Illinois Volunteers, killed June 10, 1864, at Grentown, Mo.
Brevet Brig.-General George L. Presscott, Colonel 32d Massachusetts Volunteers, died June 19, 1864, of wounds received in action.
Brevet Brig.-General Wm. Blaisdell, Colonel 11th Massachusetts Volunteers, killed June 23, 1864, before Petersburg, Va.
Brig.-General Charles G. Harker, U. S. Volunteers, died June 27, 1864, of wounds received before Marietta, Ga.
Brig.-General Samuel A. Rice, U. S. Volunteers, died July 6, 1864, of wounds received at Jenkins' Ferry, Ark.
Brevet Brig.-General George A. Cobham, Jr., Colonel 111th Pennsylvania Volunteers, killed July 20, 1864, at Peach-tree Creek, Ga.
Brevet Brig.-General James A. Mulligan, Colonel 23d Illinois Volunteers, died July 26, 1864, of wounds received at Winchester, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Griffin A. Stedman, Colonel 11th Connecticut Volunteers, killed Aug. 6, 1864.
Brevet Brig.-General George E. Elstner, Lt.-Colonel 50th Ohio Volunteers, killed Aug. 8, 1864, before Atlanta, Ga.
Brevet Brig.-General Henry Lyman Patten, Major 20th Massachusetts Volunteers, died September 10, 1864, of wounds received in action.
Brevet Major-General David A. Russell, U. S. Volunteers, killed Sept. 19, 1864, at Winchester, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Frank H. Peck, Lt.-Colonel 12th Connecticut Volunteers, killed Sept. 19, 1864, at Winchester, Va.
Brig.-General Hiram Burnham, U. S. Volunteers, killed Sept. 30, 1864, at Chopin's Farm, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Willoughby Babcock, Lieut.-Colonel 75th New York Volunteers, died October 6, 1864, of wounds received in action.
Brevet Brig.-General Alexander Gardiner, Colonel 14th New Hampshire Volunteers, died October 7, 1864, of wounds received at Opequan, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General George D. Wells, Colonel 34th Massachusetts Volunteers, killed Oct. 13, 1864, at Cedar Creek, Va.
Brig.-General Daniel D. Bidwell, U. S. Volunteers, killed Oct. 19, 1864, at Cedar Creek, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Sylvester G. Hill, Colonel 35th Iowa Volunteers, killed Dec. 15, 1864, at Nashville, Tenn.
Brevet Brig.-General J. Howard Kitching, Colonel 6th New York Volunteer Artillery, died Jan. 10, 1865, of wounds received in action.
Brevet Brig.-General George W. Gowan, Colonel 48th Pennsylvania Volunteers, killed April 2, 1865, near Petersburg, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Theodore Read, Major and Asst. Adjutant-General Volunteers, killed April 6, 1865, at High Bridge, Va.
Brevet Major-General Thomas A. Smyth, U. S. Volunteers, died April 9, 1865, of wounds received near Farmville, Va.
Brevet Brig.-General Francis Washburn, Colonel 4th Massachusetts Cavalry, died April 22, 1865, of wounds received in action.

Le Ricain wrote:I have found four of them:

Benjamin Medcus Powell 12 South Carolina
Thomas Burgess 15th South Carolina
'Kansas Tom' Johnson
Sgt Grace 4th Georgia

The two best claims seem to be Powell and Johnson (10th Georgia). Burgess shot an officer on horseback who was leading an advance. (Several sources claim that Powell killed an officer on horseback as well). 4th Georgia was not on that part of the battlefield.

Comparing these two accounts convinced me it was Powell.

Confederate from Lee's Sharpshooters ... This is the book I mentioned earlier (about McGowan's Sharpshooters Battalion).

Union from The Cannoneer

The easy-to-find reference (note 2)

I'd like to find more information on Johnson. I know Fred Ray (his major proponent) is a meticulous researcher. Where did you find his name?

New question (probably too easy for Le Ricain):

Which two of the generals on his lists killed each other?

Heldenkaiser wrote:Would it be impossible (for the game engine) in a situation where a higher commander becomes a casualty just to promote a (surviving) subordinate to the same spot? Obviously this would not apply to mass surrenders of entire corps, but otherwise if a corps commander is killed or captured, why not promote the Second-in-Command or a division commander?

maybe its possible to set up a sequence where, if a general is killed somebody steps up. If a corps commander is killed then the most senior general in the stack takes over if their are spare generals, though would have to be promoted in the field to 2 star if not already.
If a divisional commander is killed a generic 3-1-1 could be generated to take over until somebody better can arrive.
This could work to increase the chances of general casualties, without ripping appart the command structure too disasterously.
It would be highly annoying if it was too frequent though.