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Miscarriage of Justice

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:01 pm
by denisonh
There is an event called "miscarriage of justice" where General Porter gets cashiered and removed from the game.

It happened to me in an ongoing PBEM.

Problem is the division he was commanding was removed as well! :mad:

I am assuming it is not working as designed in this case.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:19 pm
by jimwinsor
A similar bug happened with Patterson and his event, IIRC.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:22 pm
by tc237
Guess it really is a miscarriage of justice.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:48 pm
by denisonh
tc237 wrote:Guess it really is a miscarriage of justice.

Exactly :p leure:

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:02 am
by Conhugeco
I was playing the 1862 campaign as the Union, and received a message that Hancock had gotten into a lover's spat and had been killed. I knew that this must have referred to Sickles, and lo and behold, Hancock was alright, but Sickles was gone - along with his entire full strength division!

Dick

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:28 am
by jimwinsor
The lovers spat event should only apply to Van Dorn, maybe. Sickles was quite the ladies man, but he left the war after Gettysburg due his leg being blown off, not due to a jealous hubby.

Anyways, best to avoid assigning Van Dorn to division command as well. :)

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:52 am
by Conhugeco
Jim, you're right about Van Dorn, but Sickles shot and killed the son of Francis Scott Key before the war in a dispute about the attention Mr. Key was paying to Sickles wife. I think Sickles was the first to offer a plea of temporary insanity, and he took back his wife.

Dick

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:15 am
by pasternakski
I have not said anything about the "general removal event" thing because it seems trivial, but I have wondered why, in a game where we are reshaping history, we have to lose leaders to happenstances occurring in the same period we are ostensibly reshaping.

I mean, can't you just hear the junior officers around the campfire at night? "What do you think the odds are that the old man will be out swinging his wang-dang-doodle this weekend and get plugged by a jealous husband? We know it's gonna happen sometime soon, because it says so in the field manual." "Tell you what, Captain, let's start an open bet among us - we can call it a 'pool,' I guess, but I don't know why - where each of us puts in five silver dollars - hard money, not those greenbacks - and chooses which two-week period between now and March 1 the next in which General Randyrooster catches a well-deserved load of buckshot in his nekkid hiney?"

Maybe the better thing would be to give all general officers a small chance of suffering a "removal event," kind of like getting killed in combat.

Of course, it's only a little thing, and I don't really have any complaints about it (except, of course, not losing the troops he commanded when he and Miss Charlotte DeBussy Duff-Gordon got caught in flagrante delicto), just so long as they don't start being replaced with Japanese warrant officers...

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:06 am
by jimwinsor
Well, in the case of Van Dorn and Porter, the respective sides lost a leader due to non-battle death reasons, on such and such a date. W/o the events, these guys would be in the game when historically they should not be.

Perhaps a solution tho is to have a random removal event, that might strike any random general, with the odds being appropriately low such that it'll only happen once per side per game (or however appropriate).

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:07 am
by jimwinsor
Oh and make sure the event leaves any divisional troops behind! :)

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:02 am
by pasternakski
jimwinsor wrote:Well, in the case of Van Dorn and Porter, the respective sides lost a leader due to non-battle death reasons, on such and such a date. W/o the events, these guys would be in the game when historically they should not be.

Perhaps a solution tho is to have a random removal event, that might strike any random general, with the odds being appropriately low such that it'll only happen once per side per game (or however appropriate).


But Jim, old scout, why not? We like to see what Jackson, Lyon, and the like might have accomplished if they were in the game "when historically they should not be." I like your idea. It sounds a lot like mine, which means it has a lot to recommend it.

I dunno. Maybe I should just go read Joe Haldeman's "Forever War" again, but I remember I already read it tomorrow...

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:11 pm
by anarchyintheuk
pasternakski wrote:just so long as they don't start being replaced with Japanese warrant officers...


It would take a lot of programming to write that bug, although the results could be amusing.