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Franz Sigel
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:58 am
by frank7350
309 USA Franz Sigel ldr_USA_Sigel $Patriot NULL NULL NULL 7 10 1 20 General 1 NULL 3 3 3
Perhaps change from Patriot to recruiting officer? Sigel was heavily supported by the immigrant pop in the northern cities who loved to serve under him... I would suggest Charismatic, but we seem to have alot of charismatic generals at this point. Also may want to raise his political support slightly, as he seemed to be a favorite of Abes.
May want to consider lowering his strategic and offensive ratings 1 point... Defeated in the Valley Campaigns in 1864 by Breckenridge..
Maybe stra/off/def stats of 2/2/2?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:41 am
by runyan99
Did a good job at Pea Ridge. I'm not wholly familiar with his entire career at the moment. Seems to have been a mediocre division commander, and a poor corps commander. He did have the support of the German immigrants, as you cite. Recruiting Officer might indeed be appropriate. Sigel as far as I know had nothing to do with raising partisan forces, so replace the Patriot trait.
In any case, we need a new line for possible promotion to corps command. Suggest
??? USA Franz Sigel ldr_USA_Sigel2 $Recruiting_Officer NULL NULL NULL 7 10 2 29 General 1 NULL 2 2 2
309 USA Franz Sigel ldr_USA_Sigel $Recruiting_Officer NULL NULL NULL 7 10 1 20 General 1 NULL 3 2 2
Not sure if he should get more VP/Political points as a corps commander.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:46 am
by frank7350
seemed to be a favorite of lincolns due to the immigrant support...kept getting commands. i think we should raise the pol value from 7... maybe 12? not sure how high a 12 is tho.... if 3.1.1 is avg general ratings, a 12 could be too high or too low.
sigel2 might be better with 3/1/1 or 2...thoughts?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:15 pm
by Pocus
10 POL is a good amount, 20 and your leader is problematic to remove, 50 is catastrophic and 100 (McClellan), you can remove it, but don't be surprised if you lose the war 3 months after that.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:53 pm
by frank7350
good thing you responded...wasn't sure how high pol went! so 10 is good for sigel then??
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:08 am
by runyan99
I can see knocking Sigel down to average status or 3-1-1 at division and 2-1-1 (worse than average) at corps. The only thing distinguishing him from an average general is his German recruiting ability and his corresponding political value/cost.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:54 pm
by frank7350
runyan:
??? USA Franz Sigel ldr_USA_Sigel2 $Recruiting_Officer NULL NULL NULL 7 10 2 29 General 1 NULL 2 1 1
309 USA Franz Sigel ldr_USA_Sigel $Recruiting_Officer NULL NULL NULL 7 10 1 20 General 1 NULL 3 1 1
thoughts?
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:43 pm
by runyan99
29 might be too many political points at corps. 20 for both levels seems plenty, if 20 means 'difficult to remove'.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:28 pm
by frank7350
i think 10 is the pol rating...and 29 seniority... may be mistaken tho.
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:29 am
by runyan99
My mistake.
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:11 am
by Korrigan
??? USA Franz Sigel ldr_USA_Sigel2 $Recruiting_Officer NULL NULL NULL 7 10 2 29 General 1 NULL 2 1 1
309 USA Franz Sigel ldr_USA_Sigel $Recruiting_Officer NULL NULL NULL 7 10 1 20 General 1 NULL 3 1 1
Fine by me
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:14 pm
by frank7350
looks good!