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John C Fremont
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:37 am
by runyan99
235 USA John C.Fremont ldr_USA_Fremont3 $Charismatic NULL NULL NULL 9 20 3 6 General 1 NULL 3 2 2
Charismatic? 3-2-2?
Overrated. This man accomplished nothing, was incompetent, his staff corrupt and bloated, and he was relieved by Lincoln in November 1861.
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:41 am
by marecone
I am not sure about charismatic but his stats are overrated.
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:47 am
by Korrigan
Make a proposition.
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:07 am
by marecone
235 USA John C.Fremont ldr_USA_Fremont3 NULL NULL NULL NULL 9 20 3 6 General 1 NULL 2 1 1
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:10 am
by runyan99
Yes, I'd say something in the neighborhood of 2-1-1 or 2-1-2.
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:35 am
by Chris0827
runyan99 wrote:Yes, I'd say something in the neighborhood of 2-1-1 or 2-1-2.
Slow mover too. He mostly sat in his HQ in Missouri and the only time he took the field the confederates easily escaped him. Jackson ran rings around him in the Valley. I'd raise his political value. Lincoln had to handle him carefully, he was very popular.
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:39 am
by marecone
Chris, it really looks like you know your stuff. Are you a profesor or something like it? Very nice job on generals. I will learn a lot from you. Carry on, please.
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:51 am
by Chris0827
marecone wrote:Chris, it really looks like you know your stuff. Are you a profesor or something like it? Very nice job on generals. I will learn a lot from you. Carry on, please.
Not a professor. I just read a lot.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:47 pm
by Korrigan
235 USA John C.Fremont ldr_USA_Fremont3 $Occupier NULL NULL NULL 9 20 3 6 General 1 NULL 2 1 1
We'll deal with political cost later.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:30 am
by cbclimber
A political general and pretty bad general at that...I guess the CSA's Floyd is pretty close.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:26 am
by runyan99
I just got done reading about Fremont's performance during Jackson's Valley campaign. Twice Ewell faced off against Fremont with inferior forces. Once Fremont did nothing, and the other he made a very abortive attack with one brigade.
Fremont seems totally without talent. If anyone deserves a zero in the attack category, I would give it to Fremont, over almost anyone else. Zero being, 'no help in attack resolution'.