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Industrialization Primer

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:46 am
by Irish Brigade
Does anyone have a detail on the percentages on industrialization..percentages on each class of state and the differences in level of industrializaton...I would appreciate it..

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:08 am
by Coregonas
I Resume, an aproximate idea...

The more cost, the more cities in the state.

The more "quality", average size in cities is bigger.

Once payed, you must hold paying monthly for maximum effect.

Every city rolls a % chance (perhaps 5% - unknown) to allow for a factory being builded.

The more big (industrialized...counts) the factory resulting is better.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:30 am
by Irish Brigade
Coregonas wrote:I Resume, an aproximate idea...

The more cost, the more cities in the state.

The more "quality", average size in cities is bigger.

Once payed, you must hold paying monthly for maximum effect.

Every city rolls a % chance (perhaps 5% - unknown) to allow for a factory being builded.

The more big (industrialized...counts) the factory resulting is better.


Then why is Wisconsin Excellent and Illinois simply good?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:34 am
by Coregonas
Dont remember but if wisconsin is the state with just 1 BIG city, the answer is YES, that s the reason.

If you invest in it, expect no results for a time,,, but you can be lucky and get the luck on turn 1... A big factory for sure.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:26 am
by Bertram
If what you write is true, there is no reason why you must pay monthly.

If there is a % chance of improvement you can pay one month, and skip the next, if low on money. Just like you can buy a lottery ticket one month, and skip the next, without it affecting the chance of winning the month after.

Only if there is a cumulative effect of several months spending in a row would it make a difference.

If the number of months you spend mmoney on it has no effect on the chance of industrialisation in the following month, it stands to reason that spending early is best, as you have a longer time to enjoy the resulting enhanced production. That is of course, if you dont need the money more urgently for other purposes.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:18 pm
by Coregonas
I m not sure about the math behind, but seems there are some bonus for continuous spending

Perhaps you get a +5% extra chance if last turn somewhat was invested.

I ll be happy if some of you could do some tests and post here in the forums.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:16 pm
by Southerner
From the few games I have played so far I was able to formulate a general rule of thumb (for me) for industrialization:


When I need it the most I can afford it the least. Once I can afford it, I no longer need it. :fleb:

Naturally I am talking about playing the C.S.A. It seems blockade runners and taking doodler territory supplies sufficient war materials without investing in an industrial base...at least against AI at normal difficulty settings.

Investing in transportation yields much more rewards for the Confederacy it seems to me.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:42 pm
by Brochgale
Southerner wrote:From the few games I have played so far I was able to formulate a general rule of thumb (for me) for industrialization:


When I need it the most I can afford it the least. Once I can afford it, I no longer need it. :fleb:

Naturally I am talking about playing the C.S.A. It seems blockade runners and taking doodler territory supplies sufficient war materials without investing in an industrial base...at least against AI at normal difficulty settings.

Investing in transportation yields much more rewards for the Confederacy it seems to me.


Experience on hard settings suggests that you need the transportation as CSA - especially if you suffer RR accidents? I do invest in industry early on but by August 1861 I turn it off - I have some WS coming in from already built industry but I find that I need those WS to build CSA army etc by August at latest.
I then reivest in idustry in winter months when I keep my units in Cities to shelter from winter. Come the spring again I turn off the industry and build armies again. However by spring of 1862 it is clear that I am already losing the war anyway. Yanks are piling in at so many points that I cant cover everything they throw at me. So I wonder about investing in industry at all?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:26 pm
by MarkCSA
Brochgale wrote:Experience on hard settings suggests that you need the transportation as CSA - especially if you suffer RR accidents? I do invest in industry early on but by August 1861 I turn it off - I have some WS coming in from already built industry but I find that I need those WS to build CSA army etc by August at latest.
I then reivest in idustry in winter months when I keep my units in Cities to shelter from winter. Come the spring again I turn off the industry and build armies again. However by spring of 1862 it is clear that I am already losing the war anyway. Yanks are piling in at so many points that I cant cover everything they throw at me. So I wonder about investing in industry at all?


Your industrialization strategy is good (I use the exact same one to win on Hard), maybe your military game needs a little improvement?