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Howdy,

I have been looking around for quite a bit now and I am still wondering what are the differences between the 1861 full and the 1861-ky full? The in game description is the same for both, so I am quite perplexed.

sorry if this is a stupid noob question.

Fred

Ah, but a good stupid noob question.

Seriously, a good question. Let me try to be succint. For example, I started a no-KY game recently (July start, though) as the USA. One may move into and invade KY at will, with no immediate or crushing cnosequences. I did see a message about something happening and the resut was a minor shift in Loyalty or "KYs chances of seceding are reduced", or something like that. In the main, KY is wide open, ripe for the taking from the first Turn.

With KY ON, then one cannot move troops into KY until the game lets you, essentially. In a nutshell, if both sides do nothing, there is a very good chance KY stays loyal to the Union by October or November 1861 and it never secedes. i. e., remains a full fledged State in the Union. In this case, the Do Nothing case, there is a 10% or so chance it secedes to the CSA.

But, one may buy a token that authorizes an invasion before then (under Reinforcements/Support), by late July or early August. It's cheap, a $1,000. So, it boils down to that a Union player can induldge in benign neglect and gamble that it defautls to the Union. A CSA player has to consider that doing nothing most likely results in KY staying in the Union.

It is important to note that he who buys the token and invades most likely has Loyalty go against him in KY.

That's it in a nutshell.

Thank you very much for the explanation.

mrfred,

Welcome to the forums. There are many that are willing to help you in your searches and endeavors.

I also wanted to know the difference so I looked at a lot of threads to find out. Besides the above info, I found a thread that stated that the 1861-Ky Campaign was created because of scripting problems in the origional 1861 Campaign that couldn't be fixed. After reading that, I only use the 1861-Ky Campaign. If that's not true please feel free to comment. I know that everythng you read isn't always accurate and I could then play either Campaign.

Well, most of us here are historical nutjobs, so I would suspect that With KY is the overwhelming choice nowadays. Recently, I started a NO KY game as the Union, for a change, and it's a bit different, but not really a vast difference. Just opens the middle of the board from the start, so to speak.

We're using the "with KY" campaign in the current Tournament, which is (I expect) an indication of its acceptance as the campaign d'jour.