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Understanding Offensive Posture

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:03 am
by Berge20
Can someone explain what happens in the following situation?

USA has entrenched stack in region A, in defensive mode.
CSA moves into region A from region B (in unknown mode).
At the end of the turn, no battle occurred and both armies now occupy the same region.

USA does not want CSA army in region and wants to attack it.
If USA goes into offensive or assault posture to ensure engagement next turn, does the stack lose entrenchment after the battle?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:14 am
by enf91
I'm not sure if the entrenchment (which is probably only level 1 to begin with) stays, but you can't use it in the ensuing battle.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:32 am
by Berge20
The USA army had been in that region for quite a while, so entrenchment was something around lv 4 to start.

I assumed they'd lose it if they attacked, but wanted to double check.

Several adjacent regions had CSA armies, so keeping entrenchment was more important than smashing the force.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:48 am
by slimey.rock
That's kind of weird. If you had lvl 4 entrenchements, surely you had >95% military control which means the CSA would have to attack you when they entered the region. You don't happen to be besieging a fort do you?

Regarding the entrenchement question, if you win the battle, your forces will retain the entrenchements (you will NOT gain the benefits of entrenchment like enf91 said). If you loose, your force will probably retreat out of the region.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:19 am
by Schattensand
Afaik the game is much about to tempt the enemy to attack your armies in def stance and well prepared.
I came to leave Milita or one brigade in the town, The main army in def stance, but never total def outside of town and a bait - Partisan or so -
in aggro stance but retreat before battle.
So the battle should happen cause one of ur armies is in off stance, but the rest is entrenched and unless u loose u may fight a def battle. The bait is lost sometimes but u cant make an omlette without detroying an egg.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:24 am
by Berge20
slimey.rock wrote:That's kind of weird. If you had lvl 4 entrenchements, surely you had >95% military control which means the CSA would have to attack you when they entered the region. You don't happen to be besieging a fort do you?

Regarding the entrenchement question, if you win the battle, your forces will retain the entrenchements (you will NOT gain the benefits of entrenchment like enf91 said). If you loose, your force will probably retreat out of the region.


Regarding if there was an engagement, I now see that there was--but CSA retreated on first try.

So if I go into offensive mode, I don't gain the advantage of entrenchment (which I figured)--but I would retain it if my army remained in the region?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:54 am
by slimey.rock
Berge20 wrote:Regarding if there was an engagement, I now see that there was--but CSA retreated on first try.

So if I go into offensive mode, I don't gain the advantage of entrenchment (which I figured)--but I would retain it if my army remained in the region?


I believe so.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:59 am
by Schattensand
Find out by urself if u may gain entrenchment back , once u sacrified it for an offstance, its anyway better to fight entrenched in def. If AI army is so big that they can invade in def and u are not fully entrenched - what can u do?
just what I offerered before, be tricky.
And dont give entrenchmentlevel easy away leave just small part of the army in it if u move, means move the bigger part out of the stack and the smaller keeps the entrenchlevel. So u can use it again, even better than before.