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I just had a battle in which five 1 stars are promotable. One is the most senior guy and the others will all make him mad for being passed over. My question is if I promote all 5 of them at the same time, will I still take the penalty for the other 4?


I tried to search,but didn't see an answer for this example.

It depends on how you look at it. Usually there's no NM hit for mad people, just VP, and VP is not hard to ramp back up. So at first I just promoted everyone as long as there was no NM involved.

Lately, I've done the opposite. Partly it's because I want to have good Corps commanders (Union). After all, how many 2* generals do I need? Also, I 'cheat' a little bit because, after all, I know the history. I've never really 'pushed' Grant or Sherman, and I'm not doing so now, but I am trying to see if they will 'rise to the top'.

So partly, it depends on how you're playing the game.

Oh, and sorry - the exact answer is that it goes by Seniority, I would wager - at least that's what I've seen, so far.

I think.

I'm thinking.... yes. You are right, it has been discussed before and I'm thinking it's one of those things that would require a lot of work to fix so cross your fingers for AACW2

It's a Trap wrote:I just had a battle in which five 1 stars are promotable. One is the most senior guy and the others will all make him mad for being passed over. My question is if I promote all 5 of them at the same time, will I still take the penalty for the other 4?


I tried to search,but didn't see an answer for this example.

I think he won't get mad if he's promoted at the same time than the lower seniority ones... but i'm just guessing
Don't forget to tell us what happens in the end after you try

I got the seniority thing. Its just that the 4 "lesser" generals promotion tooltip says "blah blah 1NM 47VP loss" each. But I'm promoting the most senior general at the same time. My question is if I promote them all will it cost me 4NM and 188VP or sense the most senior is getting promoted will I take no losses.

And while VP is easy to get. Using it up when my PBEM oppenent is within 100VPs is not worth it.

To make a long story short. I did the promotion and while the senior general seems to not have been promoted and not effected the others. The others were farther down along the seniority chain and pissed off other generals who weren't mentioned in the tool tip.

End result is I took no NM loss and about 1/2 the VP loss. So unless you are sure that when you are doing multi promotions that all the generals are the most senior ones. Otherwise your going to make someone mad and take an unknown penalty.

Is there a way to make the roster to show just your generlas in a seniority order?

It's a Trap wrote:Is there a way to make the roster to show just your generlas in a seniority order?

Sure.
Use the unit roster (not the stack roster), then click on the leaders tab and then click on the seniority of any of the generals in the roster.
The list will be ordered according to the statistic you click on (in this case, seniority)

arsan wrote:Sure.
Use the unit roster (not the stack roster), then click on the leaders tab and then click on the seniority of any of the generals in the roster.
The list will be ordered according to the statistic you click on (in this case, seniority)

OK the only roster I know is the one in the ledge that says "Roster" and I haven't found a way for it to filter only leaders.

On the left hand side, when you select 'Roster', you'll see all the little gold flaggy thingies.

Just mouseover them - the blank one at the bottom displays a second set of the things. Again, mouseover. You'll figure it out in five minutes.

One of the quirks in the game is the order in which you select leaders to be promoted matters. In the case you mentioned, I can tell you selected the most senior guy to be promoted first because if you had selected ANY of the other 4 first, the senior guy would have gotten angry and probably would have lost enough seniority to be unable to be promoted.

For me always playing CSA it has always been a question of getting the strongest Armies and Corps that I can have. If that means passing over some 1 stars in favour of others - so be it. I always take view that Longstreet when the chance presents itself to promote him as he without question makes a great Corps commander.

In Human v Human games I have taken to sacking ASJohnstone in order to get a better commander for the Army of Tennessee especially when my nephew appears with his Grant and Sherman panzers. I just say to H!!! with what it is going to cost me and who its going to madden - normally my nephew when he sees what I did!

I regularly replace divisional commanders when better ones come along, As CSA I guess I can afford to be more ruthless than Davis was in reality. Bragg I keep well out of way and he gets passed over so often I do take a VP hit with him but I figure better the VP hit than a total Army wipe out?

Bragg is a 5-3-1 with Training Master (OK, and Dispirited Leader). As a corps commander, he will be active most of the time, and he will give huge bonuses as an Army commander. So why hamstring him?

Training master is most valuable pretty fast upgrading the brigades, so not all same same more one more - one less

enf91 wrote:Bragg is a 5-3-1 with Training Master (OK, and Dispirited Leader). As a corps commander, he will be active most of the time, and he will give huge bonuses as an Army commander. So why hamstring him?

I hamstring him because of that dispirited leader trait - cant afford dispirited troops in CSA , also that defense mark of 1 is not so great either, after I ditch ASJohnstone I am looking for Generals with decent defensive qualities for my Army of Tennessee. But each to his own I guess.

enf91 wrote:Bragg is a 5-3-1 with Training Master (OK, and Dispirited Leader). As a corps commander, he will be active most of the time, and he will give huge bonuses as an Army commander. So why hamstring him?

Cause he belongs in the rear (like a reserve corps) and therefore he won't accumulate more seniority. While a nice activation, his other stats are a little low for what the CSA should be able to field. As for being a army commander the 4 you start with and having Longstreet and Jackson up there with a little luck. The CSA should be good. Thats one of the things that doesn't hamstring the CSA ,like they were historically, is the high losses of some of their best generals.

I usually use him as a coastal reaction force or if I decide to take an offsnsive in MO.

I like Bragg in the game and he has served me well so far. Dispirited leader isn't the worst trait in the world. You just have to make sure you give his men plenty of time to recover or take a chance and put them in passive posture on a turn you don't think the enemy will attack. Also training master is a very valuable trait as was mentioned earlier.

Sure 5-3-1 is a little low on the defensive, but if you can get him just 10 exp, suddenly he's a 5-3-2. There's something much more pleasing about seeing the 5-3-2 for me. He's not the best, but I think he holds his own.

slimey.rock wrote:I like Bragg in the game and he has served me well so far. Dispirited leader isn't the worst trait in the world. You just have to make sure you give his men plenty of time to recover or take a chance and put them in passive posture on a turn you don't think the enemy will attack. Also training master is a very valuable trait as was mentioned earlier.

Sure 5-3-1 is a little low on the defensive, but if you can get him just 10 exp, suddenly he's a 5-3-2. There's something much more pleasing about seeing the 5-3-2 for me. He's not the best, but I think he holds his own.

I see your point but in Human v Human games going passive at any time is almost fatal for CSA - thats my view. As Bragg would more than likely be one of your Corps commanders at the very least - having a whole badly mauled Corps sitting passive for a turn or more is not eally an option. I tried it once at after I went back to Corps it was stuck in inactive mode - I got hammered that turn!

Yes, I see your point. I'm not saying it isn't dangerous, but it is an easy and quick way to gain cohesion FAST. Like I said, to use it you're taking a chance, but there are certain situations like when you smash an enemy army and their only option is to retreat or after a long march in winter with no enemy around when it is illogical not to use it.

You know, you could attach a medical co. to the stack: cohesion returns to its normal level and you counteract the recovery penalty somewhat. Or, if you have a spare 2-star lying around, swap out. Think of the second guy as the G-1 officer.

Yeah, but swapping leaders like that is kind of gamey. What would Bragg say if Davis told him he was only allowed to lead his men in combat .

The medical company is a simple solution, but it does cost $24