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The Stonewall Brigade
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:22 am
by soloswolf
Howdy, folks!
I was curious what the thought was behind removing The Stonewall Brigade from the April '61 Campaign. Anyone know?
Was it a cp decision due to the new no corps until '62 rule? Something else?
Apart from liking the unit and wishing it was there, it only further separates the two sides allotment of unique brigades.
-edit- I have only played four turns so far, but as I saw 'Jackson's Bde', I figured that it would not be showing up.
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:40 am
by Gray_Lensman
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:22 am
by soloswolf
The brigade used to be four elite infantry regiments paired with a light infantry regiment. The elites granted the strong morale trait, and the light infantry granted the sharpshooter trait. I don't remember the exact cp cost it had.
It now is composed of two standard infantry regiments and a sharpshooter regiment and costs 2 cp. It shows up in J. Johnston's stack with Jackson embedded.
Btw, I really dig the 1* status of the VA generals. I
especially dig having Longstreet from that early on in the campaign.
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:33 pm
by richfed
Yes, I have noticed this --- something has definitely changed for this unit. It is now just 3 elements. This first started somewhere between 1.12 & 1.13 --- maybe in the betas?
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:31 pm
by Gray_Lensman
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:59 am
by Major Tom
Gray_Lensman wrote:Somewhere along the way, the Stonewall Bde not only got a name change but the unit assigned for it's makeup got switched also... I'm working on restoring the correct brigade makeup and name.
edit> per historical records, Stonewall Bde was made up of 5 Infantry Rgts and an Artillery Rgt. This is the makeup now that it's been fixed.
see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_Brigade
Maybe the Stonewall Brigade got dropped for historical reasons?
I mean, how can there be Stonewall Brigade that predates Jackson even getting the nickname?
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:01 pm
by soloswolf
Major Tom wrote:Maybe the Stonewall Brigade got dropped for historical reasons?
I mean, how can there be Stonewall Brigade that predates Jackson even getting the nickname?
The only thing about this argument is this: Let's say that to reflect his actions at 1st Bull Run the bde. is spawned in the region where Jackson is. Well, what if you never move his stack to Manassas? He never get's his nickname, so no bde?
My point is, those men were with him before he marched to the field. The name is cosmetic. Further, the Federals get roughly 7,000 unique units...
Let's let the CSA keep one of the few they do get.
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:07 pm
by Gray_Lensman
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:09 pm
by soloswolf
Thanks for taking care of it so fast!
Is there something we'll need to download? Or will this just be on hold until the next release?
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:20 pm
by Gray_Lensman
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:08 pm
by soloswolf
Cool. Again, thanks for your attention.
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:54 pm
by Pdubya64
Kudos once again Gray for the unenviable job of "herding cats" as it were...
it's much appreciated!
pw
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:56 am
by Major Tom
soloswolf wrote:The only thing about this argument is this: Let's say that to reflect his actions at 1st Bull Run the bde. is spawned in the region where Jackson is. Well, what if you never move his stack to Manassas? He never get's his nickname, so no bde?
My point is, those men were with him before he marched to the field. The name is cosmetic. Further, the Federals get roughly 7,000 unique units...
Let's let the CSA keep one of the few they do get.
Oh, I'm fine with having hte Stonewall Brigade -- I was only postulating a reason why it might have been removed.
After all, the name is only "flavor." As you say, the unit existed prior to the nickname, and the CSA already has a shortage of elite units relative to the USA.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:39 pm
by deadmeat1471
A slight deeviation from topic, but how do you make divs?
i got a leader and units in stack
+
toggled the divison
+
wait a turn
??????
nothing
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:01 pm
by arsan
deadmeat1471 wrote:A slight deeviation from topic, but how do you make divs?
i got a leader and units in stack
+
toggled the divison
+
wait a turn
??????
nothing
Check the bottom of this page
http://ageod.nsen.ch/aacwwiki/Division
With step by step pictures and all!
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:43 pm
by Gray_Lensman
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:40 pm
by deadmeat1471
nice!
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:45 pm
by W.Barksdale
Gray_Lensman wrote: The in-game Stonewall brigade is made up of game model elements that are "elite" and not the normal "line" elements. The normal "line" elements are currently in the game (v1.13b). The change back to the Stonewall brigade reintroduces them as "elite" elements also.
Has this change been published yet?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:04 pm
by soloswolf
I'm just bumping this to see if it's in or not.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:01 pm
by mikee64
It's in the current game I'm playing with latest beta patch and quick fix installed.