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Ok, PBEM I am south. My opponent built a fort in Beaumont texas. I try and send some ironclads up to Milam, via Sabine river estuary. They get bombarded and destroyed.

My understanding was that Beaumont borders Sabine Confluent. So I thought sailing that way I would actually miss the fort.

So do forts bombard which regions?
All regions/rivers adjacent? or just the adjoining water area to the port?


Part 2 of this situation.

If a force with arty is in a region (no town or port) do they still bombard passing fleets? As I had several mortars opposite Beaumont but they failed to bombard the Union fleets, (maybe I failed they evasion/interdiction roll?)


Part 3
As my opponent points out. there is an irony here in that I shipped a division up the same route as the ironclads previously and nothing happened. This is when the Union had 2 fleets in Beaumont !

Anyone know the answers to these questions?

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Captain wrote:Part 2 of this situation.

If a force with arty is in a region (no town or port) do they still bombard passing fleets? As I had several mortars opposite Beaumont but they failed to bombard the Union fleets, (maybe I failed they evasion/interdiction roll?)

For land stacks outside of forts to be able to bombard passing ships they need to dig in. You also need do have artillery with a certain range, but I imagine mortars should belong to that category.

Also, stacks can toggled between bombarding and not bombarding, though I don't remember what the default.

Captain wrote:Part 3
As my opponent points out. there is an irony here in that I shipped a division up the same route as the ironclads previously and nothing happened. This is when the Union had 2 fleets in Beaumont !

Which posture did the Union fleets have? I'm fairly sure they have to be set to "offensive" to engage enemies passing by.

Gray_Lensman wrote:A fort will bombard a naval unit if it passes thru any adjacent water region that has a "double" adjacency to it. Hard to explain double adjacency, but in most cases all water regions adjacent to regions have at least a double adjacency.

Sabine River Estuary does in fact share a "double" adjacency with Beaumont, TX, so yes you would be bombarded for passing thru that region if a fort were constructed there.

So the regions port access doesn't even come into it?

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Rafiki wrote:For land stacks outside of forts to be able to bombard passing ships they need to dig in. You also need do have artillery with a certain range, but I imagine mortars should belong to that category.

Also, stacks can toggled between bombarding and not bombarding, though I don't remember what the default.

Which posture did the Union fleets have? I'm fairly sure they have to be set to "offensive" to engage enemies passing by.

Rafiki,

If I knew that I would have held the junction position. But seeing some ships pass by unimpeded I decided to up stakes and bolt fearing being cut off.

Posture of the fleets, I don't know , would have to ask my opponent but I suspect passive.

Anyway thanks to you and Gray. It is always annoying when you do the wrong thing in a game based on a misunderstanding or lack of knowledge of the rules.

I just accidently sacked Beauregard from army commander by stacking him with Lee's army. Cost me 10 morale points and 600 victory points
For a stupid mistake it will probably cost me a game

Captain wrote:Anyway thanks to you and Gray. It is always annoying when you do the wrong thing in a game based on a misunderstanding or lack of knowledge of the rules.

Indeed. Heavens knows I've been there and done that

Captain wrote:I just accidently sacked Beauregard from army commander by stacking him with Lee's army. Cost me 10 morale points and 600 victory points
For a stupid mistake it will probably cost me a game

Yeah, been there to; thinking of printing T-shirts for it

Double adjacency?

Is there a list of doubly adjacent regions? Are the double adjacent regions all water regions? Should we assume that a fort can fire on adjacent water regions plus the water region adjacent to that?

I didn't know what it was called, but I sure learned about it during the PBEM Tournament (not a good time to learn things). I sent a force via boat to threaten St. Louis (Fort St. Louis). I went through Kaskaskia Confluent to land, and since St. Louis Harbor doesn't access Kaskaskia, I thought my guys would be safe. Oops. The fort bombarded my embarked troops, almost wiping out the force.

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