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but have any of you played Guns of August? I've got a WWI itch that I've gotta scratch, and the reviews go both ways.

Have you been over to the Matrix forums? I know there is a lot of imput over there. No I haven't tried it though...

Yeah I'm floating through everything right now,

Mosby wrote:Yeah I'm floating through everything right now,

I'm still waiting for a patch that fixes the scrolling before I play it but I think it's a wait in vain.

Cheers, Chris

For me (still) the best WW1 scenarios are the ones in The Operational Art Of War III. The only problem with TOAW 3 is that the engine is not really suitable for "grand campaigns". There is a huge void in WW1 games that VGN could/can/will fill
Also if you are in real time wargaming you could try World War I from 1C Company. It uses the old Blitzkrieg engine and could provide some fun - but don't expect too much

It's true a good strategic WW1 game is lacking

You could try: Victoria Revolutions from Paradox. I hesitate to recommend them because I paid for an update to EUIII and could not get to download properly. apy:

Carnium wrote:For me (still) the best WW1 scenarios are the ones in The Operational Art Of War III. The only problem with TOAW 3 is that the engine is not really suitable for "grand campaigns". There is a huge void in WW1 games that VGN could/can/will fill
Also if you are in real time wargaming you could try World War I from 1C Company. It uses the old Blitzkrieg engine and could provide some fun - but don't expect too much

I agree. TOAW 3 has some very nice WWI scenarios and of course hundreds of other scenarios from S XIX to S XXI included for the same price.
You can't beat that game content wise, at least.
Beisdes, IMHO TOAW looks much better than GOA even if the former is ten years older that the later...
Regards!

I did not play the Matrix PC version, but I played and still have the boardgame Guns of August (from AH if memory serves) )
Side question, I guess there is no copyright issue involved in reusing the title?

PhilThib wrote:It's true a good strategic WW1 game is lacking

Paths of Glory Boardgame seems to me a very good one. Just easy & quick to play, has not the enormity of Europa-Scorched Earth... but is playable!

Playing 4 or 5 games to the end (a posible feat in a few weeks)is going to make you get a good flavour and understand the main history of WWI...

I truly recommend it to any one who doesnt know the main flow of WWI, card - events help a lot.

The reviews on gamersgate talk great about Hearts of Iron: Doomsday

http://www.gamersgate.com/index.php?page=product&what=view&sku=DD-PDX10&cat=

Anyone here has it and can relate?

Thats is WW2 not WW1
In any case is a very good "Paradox" kind of game: grand strategy with militar, diplomacy, porduction, technology and historical events, all in pausable real time. It has a huge level of detail and possible micromanagement, very absorbing and with some excellent mods.
Now, the AI as usual is a little lacking and have some bugs that are fixed in another expansion (HoI2 Armaggedon) which includes his share of new bugs leure:
Still, highly recommended if you like this kind of games.
Cheers!

I have been playing Guns of August steadily since it came out last August. It has a truly elegant design that gives you a good feeling for the strategic challenges unique to that period. The mechanics of the game flow with a nice rhythm that allows you to focus on the actual game play rather then struggling with the rules or UI. The UI has some rough edges in regard to the naval game but that is much more abstracted than the land game where the real action takes place. The manual is lacking in some detailed explanation but most of those ambiguities have been discussed and answered on the GoA forum.

I am exclusively playing this PBEM and it plays very well with no glitches in the PBEM transactions. PBEM is simple and straightforward.

Frank is very responsive to not only fixing any of the bugs that show up but also in modifying some of the rules that player consensus recommends.

It is one of the best strategic level games that I have encountered in quite awhile along with those put out by AGEOD.

Thanks for the help y'all. I've been trying to buy it at a store down here, but I'm not having any luck.

Guess I'll have to find a hotspot to download it for my lappy.

I'm currently trying Guns of August.
Well, good and bad points.
On the bad points: it's very ugly. Thanks modders, there are some units and map mods that help to increase a little bit the overall attractiveness of the game, but it's wayyyy beyond current wargame standarts, and let's forget about Ageod cuteness.

On the good: seems to be an overall good recreation of WW1, with a quite correct potential of replayability, thanks to the starting options and diplomatic engines.

As I'm only a beginner in the game, I can't go much further presently... If you are not on the point to count ever penny, then try it! I don't think you have much to lose.

Personally, I think I'll pass on Guns of August and see what others can make of WW1 in the future

I'll do the same...sounds a good move

PhilThib wrote:I'll do the same...sounds a good move

Who would know that better than you
GOA is not something that I would want to spend my time playing it as it looks too basic and WAY outdated for my taste - it looks like the games I have played in 1990s ....

Carnium wrote:Who would know that better than you
BOA is not something that I would want to spend my time playing it as it looks too basic and WAY outdated for my taste - it looks like the games I have played in 1990s ....

BoA or GoA??
Rafiki, Philipe... stop teasing like that!!... if you have something to tell us SPEAK!
Do the AGEOD secret project have a lot of trenches in it??
Ragards!

Well, VGN is set to cover the period leading up to and covering WW1

arsan wrote:BoA or GoA??

Uppssss .. GOA

Carnium wrote:Who would know that better than you
GOA is not something that I would want to spend my time playing it as it looks too basic and WAY outdated for my taste - it looks like the games I have played in 1990s ....

I would be a shame to dismiss it because of it graphics. It is a far better game then most of the games with glitzy graphics that are being put out lately. It has a great deal of depth and content to it that really makes you feel like you are playing a simulation of WW I.

Lascar wrote:I would be a shame to dismiss it because of it graphics. It is a far better game then most of the games with glitzy graphics that are being put out lately. It has a great deal of depth and content to it that really makes you feel like you are playing a simulation of WW I.

I did not mean only the graphic but the whole engine that GOA is using. Its is outdated and for me it does not provide enough information about units, technology and politics so there is no real "feel" that you are really playing a true WW1 simulation.
There is a HUGE lack of WW1 games and that makes GOA interesting to many that enjoy this period.
Sad truth is that there are WAY too many WW2 games which we can compare and almost no WW1 games.
WW1 FPS anyone

Seems I really need to try that game. I bought it some time ago, mainly to support the developer I guess, but didn't played it till now.
Did I ever mention that I have far more games than time?

Mosby wrote:but have any of you played Guns of August? I've got a WWI itch that I've gotta scratch, and the reviews go both ways.

Got a question. Not seen this GoA.

I did play a bit (around 20 years ago) Avalon Hill - WWI - Guns of August.

Was not very good, but the first game I knew on WWI.

Are you talking about this game? Is it been re- done on computer?
please can someone put a link?

edit- Oh finally i did found--- Matrix games. Yesterday I did try searching but my google sent me to AH...

Carnium wrote:I did not mean only the graphic but the whole engine that GOA is using. Its is outdated and for me it does not provide enough information about units, technology and politics so there is no real "feel" that you are really playing a true WW1 simulation.
There is a HUGE lack of WW1 games and that makes GOA interesting to many that enjoy this period.
Sad truth is that there are WAY too many WW2 games which we can compare and almost no WW1 games.
WW1 FPS anyone

Have you actually played GoA?

Coregonas wrote:Got a question. Not seen this GoA.

I did play a bit (around 20 years ago) Avalon Hill - WWI - Guns of August.

Was not very good, but the first game I knew on WWI.

Are you talking about this game? Is it been re- done on computer?
please can someone put a link?

edit- Oh finally i did found--- Matrix games. Yesterday I did try searching but my google sent me to AH...

The only thing that the old Avalon Guns of August has in common with the Frank Hunter game is the title and the subject. Other than that no resemblance. Frank Hunter's game is a much better simulation of WWI and also a lot more fun to play.

Lascar wrote:Have you actually played GoA?

Nope. But have read a lot about it (matrix forums, other sites) and seen the screens from the game and have decided to give my money to AGEOD instead...
In the end it was more of a decision about getting FoF or ACOW.

Yes! It was a a very bad game.