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Am I insane?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:18 am
by morvael
- AGEod's American Civil War, spent 39.99 Euro, played 20 hours
- Napoleon's Campaigns, spent 39.99 Euro, played 2 hours
- BoA2: Wars in America, spent 59.79 Dollars, played 4 minutes
- WW1 : La Grande Guerre 14-18, spent 39.99 Euro, not played yet.
Cost per hour of fun? Way too high!
Don't worry this happens also with any other computer or board games I buy, I have money but I don't have free time to play

Quite opposite to my youth, when I had a lot of free time but no money (and no AGEOD then)...
Are there similar poor souls here on this forum?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:21 am
by Carnium
morvael wrote:- AGEod's American Civil War, spent 39.99 Euro, played 20 hours
- Napoleon's Campaigns, spent 39.99 Euro, played 2 hours
- BoA2: Wars in America, spent 59.79 Dollars, played 4 minutes
- WW1 : La Grande Guerre 14-18, spent 39.99 Euro, not played yet.
...
Are there similar poor souls here on this forum?
Yes they are my Slavic brother

In fact I am one of them too.
Right now I haven't played a single AGEOD game for two months. There is always something that prevents me from playing when my working day is finally over. Actually I am spending FAR more time on the forum than actually playing the games

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:39 am
by berto
Carnium wrote:Actually I am spending FAR more time on the forum than actually playing the games
Not to mention spending FAR more time beta testing than actually playing.

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:43 am
by arsan
morvael wrote:- AGEod's American Civil War, spent 39.99 Euro, played 20 hours
- Napoleon's Campaigns, spent 39.99 Euro, played 2 hours
- BoA2: Wars in America, spent 59.79 Dollars, played 4 minutes
- WW1 : La Grande Guerre 14-18, spent 39.99 Euro, not played yet.
Cost per hour of fun? Way too high!

Don't worry this happens also with any other computer or board games I buy, I have money but I don't have free time to play

Quite opposite to my youth, when I had a lot of free time but no money (and no AGEOD then)...
Are there similar poor souls here on this forum?
Yep, you are insane!... and me too!
I'm in exactly the same boat than you guys!
Honestly, i can't remember the last game i actually "finished"

I may be worried if a game offers little content but in fact i never play and finish all scenarios or campaigns of a game, not even half!
And as if i had not enough AGEOD and Matrix games on my long "to play" list, in the last two weeks i have bought the second expansion of Galciv2 (of course i never finished the first expansion

) and the Complete edition of Civilization IV (thousands of playing hours in itself that if i had time!

)
Maybe if i managed to break a leg or two and had to stay home for a couple of months...
Besides, I completely agree on the problems with time and money.
When you have time to play, you don't have time to buy. When you have money to spend you hardly have time to play what to buy.
Life's a bitch!
And don't get me started with the long list of books to read, films to see, records to listen to...

leure:
Cheers
PS: reading ans posting on this damn.. forum is robbing myself of quite some playing time too!
Luckily it robs me of some boring work time too

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:48 am
by morvael
Glad to know all over the world people are suffering the same pains as I am
arsan wrote:PS: reading ans posting on this damn.. forum is robbing myself of quite some playing time too!

Luckily it robs me of some boring work time too
Dear AGEOD to make your games really played by the people who buy them I think you have to develop a web-browser version

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:56 am
by berto
arsan wrote:Luckily it robs me of some boring work time too
Seriously, though, I have wasted thousands of dollars over my lifetime purchasing war games I very little if at all played. Older and wiser now, I am trying to be more discriminating and restrained in my purchases but with still limited success.

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:36 am
by Franciscus
Yes, good to see so many mental patie... I mean similar "players" like me
I have bought all AGEOD games until now. I have really managed to play several dozens of hours of AACW, and even finished (yes, finished ! :thumbsup

ONE grand campaign... The past 1 or 2 months...not one hour...
All other games ?? maybe half a dozen hours total...
(but I confess that I bought them in part to help keep them with a job and improving AACW

)
AND, I also have in the past months bought Gary Grigsby's WBTS and Forge of Freedom (not really played them seriously...), The 3rd extension of GalCiv2 (almost finished one large map with the 2nd extension...), Sins of a Solar Empire (good potential; should have a campaign; played a couple of hours...), Fantasy Wars (funny little game, now on the backburner...), and Mount and Blade (great fun. But have not managed to scrape a minute of play time in the last couple of weeks...). Probably others, that I do not remember...
TC2M and NWN (1 and 2) have also a permanent place in my hard-drive but have not played it in the past 6 or so months...
I know that spending hard-earned cash in all this games is not at all rational. It could almost be called a vice; it is relatively harmless, though...
In the past I had similar "behaviours" with DVD movies and CDs, but I have managed to beat those vices (in part due to space constraints and after one or two stern lectures by my wife...

)
So, any one ready to form a group of PA (Players Anonimous ?)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:51 pm
by Pocus
That's not really different from the addiction some of our Ladies suffers with shopping.

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:07 pm
by Generalisimo
Pocus wrote:That's not really different from the addiction some of our Ladies suffers with shopping.
Completelly agree... my wife buys clothes that she will wear once per year... with luck!

... and I will not start discussing about women shoes...
So, we have this "addiction" to compensate...

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:26 pm
by morvael
Pocus, maybe you have just to make a 700MB install file that will create some random crap on HDD plus add some nice icons and readme file about such and such new super campaign game set in the age of XYZ and you will get a lot of 39.99 euro from each such addict as me. And look, how much time will you save on not having to develop a full game! Why bother if it never gets played anyway?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:40 pm
by arsan
morvael wrote:Pocus, maybe you have just to make a 700MB install file that will create some random crap on HDD plus add some nice icons and readme file about such and such new super campaign game set in the age of XYZ and you will get a lot of 39.99 euro from each such addict as me. And look, how much time will you save on not having to develop a full game! Why bother if it never gets played anyway?

Hey, we are just a little insane... not completely insane!

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:10 pm
by Franciscus
morvael wrote:Pocus, maybe you have just to make a 700MB install file that will create some random crap on HDD plus add some nice icons and readme file about such and such new super campaign game set in the age of XYZ and you will get a lot of 39.99 euro from each such addict as me. And look, how much time will you save on not having to develop a full game! Why bother if it never gets played anyway?

But wait, that sounds familiar

. I am pretty sure I have already bought a couple of games similar to what you describe, in my almost 25 years as a game-addict...
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:31 pm
by Sol Invictus
Yes, you are insane, as are we all.

It is a disease and a severe personality disfunction from which we all struggle on a daily basis. Our only solace is to take comfort from the company of like individuals and to seek their support.

cute shoes...?!
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:01 pm
by Aphrodite Mae
Generalisimo wrote: ... and I will not start discussing about women shoes...

Oh,
please do!
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:15 pm
by jastaV
morvael wrote:- AGEod's American Civil War, spent 39.99 Euro, played 20 hours
- Napoleon's Campaigns, spent 39.99 Euro, played 2 hours
- BoA2: Wars in America, spent 59.79 Dollars, played 4 minutes
- WW1 : La Grande Guerre 14-18, spent 39.99 Euro, not played yet.
Cost per hour of fun? Way too high!

Don't worry this happens also with any other computer or board games I buy, I have money but I don't have free time to play

Quite opposite to my youth, when I had a lot of free time but no money (and no AGEOD then)...
Are there similar poor souls here on this forum?
Add me to the list too!
Most of time I spend on PC games goes after modding and testing!

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:14 pm
by tagwyn
++ Me too!!

apy:
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:55 pm
by Adlertag
If we buy so much games and not really have the time to play with, the real addiction is more to own the games like a collector than playing with them...a bit like shoes

or cars collection (for the wealthiest).
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:21 pm
by jastaV
Aphrodite Mae wrote: 
Oh,
please do!
As with shoes,.....You buy more, but use few: most confortable ones!
That same is true with games!
[color="Black"][SIZE="3"]EMO, ERGO SUM![/size][/color] 
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:46 pm
by Rafiki
Carnium wrote:Actually I am spending FAR more time on the forum than actually playing the games
I can't recall the last time I read something someone else wrote that applied so much to myself

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:56 pm
by dooya
Rafiki wrote:Carnium wrote: Actually I am spending FAR more time on the forum than actually playing the games
I can't recall the last time I read something someone else wrote that applied so much to myself
I can't recall the last time I read something someone else wrote on something someone else wrote before that applied so much to myself

(Insert cool Latin phrase here)
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:22 pm
by Aphrodite Mae
dooya wrote:Rafiki wrote:Carnium wrote:Actually I am spending FAR more time on the forum than actually playing the games
I can't recall the last time I read something someone else wrote that applied so much to myself
I can't recall the last time I read something someone else wrote on something someone else wrote before that applied so much to myself
The minimization of total curvature variation leads to an Euler Spiral solution, a curve whose curvature varies linearly with arclength... or maybe in this case, degree of mental deviation.
But I'm just a girl, and maybe I'm wrong.
Now! ...about those shoes...!
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:28 pm
by lodilefty
Aphrodite Mae wrote:The minimization of total curvature variation leads to an Euler Spiral solution, a curve whose curvature varies linearly with arclength... or maybe in this case, degree of mental deviation.
Um, HUH?

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:09 pm
by jastaV
Aphrodite Mae wrote:The minimization of total curvature variation leads to an Euler Spiral solution, a curve whose curvature varies linearly with arclength........
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=773826.774161But I'm just a girl, and maybe I'm wrong.
First the Hellfire, now advanced mathematic: I doubt you are just a girl!
May be Wonderwoman!?

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:19 pm
by jastaV
dooya wrote:I can't recall the last time I read something someone else wrote on something someone else wrote before that applied so much to myself
Indeed the new frontier in game insanity is not buying games but PRE-ORDERING THEM!
You all know!
The great expectations for a game you pre-ordered......
The disapointement any time scheduled release date is postponed!
Then , you get seller notification your game was sent: ... unfortunately Christmas is near, the delivery servises are overstressed with work and your game will lay for weeks in some depot!
Ah..... At hand you have it in your hands: it 's time to unpack it and forget the game on some bookcase.

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:34 pm
by Generalisimo
I think you forgot something there...
jastaV wrote:Indeed the new frontier in game insanity is not buying games but PRE-ORDERING THEM!
You all know!
The great expectations for a game you pre-ordered......
The disapointement any time scheduled release date is postponed!
Then , you get seller notification your game was sent: ... unfortunately Christmas is near, the delivery servises are overstressed with work and your game will lay for weeks in some depot!
Ah..... At hand you have it in your hands: it 's time to unpack it and forget the game on some bookcase... [color="Red"]
and preorder the next game!![/color]

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:03 pm
by jastaV
Generalisimo wrote:I think you forgot something there...
Indeed I'm not in the need: I have always a couple of games in pre-order!
......one of two is quite easy to predict!

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:03 pm
by Adlertag
Aphrodite Mae wrote:The minimization of total curvature variation leads to an Euler Spiral solution, a curve whose curvature varies linearly with arclength... or maybe in this case, degree of mental deviation.
In concrete terms, if a vehicle follows the curve at constant speed it will keep a constant rate of angular acceleration or how to use Euler spiral to build a good roller-coaster.

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:40 pm
by tagwyn
You are far more than just a girl AM!!
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:43 pm
by jastaV
Aphrodite Mae wrote:Now! ...about those shoes...!
Okay,
Aphrodite Mae, here is the situation!
You are at a sale, on the way to buy that pair of shoes so long you sought......
Unfortunately there just one last pair, and a girl grabbed it right under your nose!
Please, tell us that will happen then.....
JastaV
P.S.: you have not
hellfires at hand this time!

Shoe acquisition equation
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:51 pm
by Aphrodite Mae
jastaV wrote:Okay,
Aphrodite Mae, here is the situation!
You are at a sale, on the way to buy that pair of shoes so long you sought......
Unfortunately there just one last pair, and a girl grabbed it right under your nose!

Please, tell us that will happen then....
Why, I do declare, Mr. JastaV! What an interesting problem!
Let D = Dixiecrat
Let $ = Dixiecrat's money
Let c = coolness of shoes
Let p = price discount
Let j = days since Dixiecrat had to eat Lime jello with "stuff" in it
Let w = shoe-snatching wench
Let M = Aphrodite Mae
Let m = impact (mass*velocity) of stiletto-heeled shoes worn by M
Let a = cluelessness of shoe-snatching wench
Finally,
Let s = the cute shoes in question.
This obviously involves calculus, but I can't create integrals or derivatives with this font. So let's try to make a sweet little equation algebraically, ok? The range has an upper limit of $/(p/c), and a lower limit of j; but the situation is complicated by an undefined term:
w + m = Ouch, where "Ouch" is undefined.
After several manipulations that I won't go into, the equation simplifies to become:
(w + a) + m = M + s
Ouch + a = M + s
and thus,
M + s = D - $ Please notice that the shoe-snatching wench has been factored out of the equation. For obvious reasons, this equation cannot be simplified any further without becoming absurd. And we certainly wouldn't want
that, would we!