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alliance with nassau or/and hesse
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:06 pm
by Mimii2
Hi,
France has veru good relationships with nassau. Impossible to integrate them in empire.
Moreover, i want to improve my relationships with Hesse to create wesphalia. Impossible. They refuse all my diplomat.
How are we supposed to do?
I have no idea. Perhaps a war ? Or just luck?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:32 pm
by Pocus
Continue to ask, you must be patient. Improve relationship to a high level, like 75+ and try 2, 3, 4 times.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:47 pm
by veji1
Pocus wrote:Continue to ask, you must be patient. Improve relationship to a high level, like 75+ and try 2, 3, 4 times.
Nassau has never signed after more than 30 or 35 tries over several games, including with relationship at 95 at best and mostly north of 90.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:52 pm
by Mimii2
same for me concerning nassau. I think napoleon make love with nassau dirigeant wife and he is angry lol
Moreover, visit state diplomat is the only way to improve Relationship. Am i wrong?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:08 pm
by veji1
Mimii2 wrote:same for me concerning nassau. I think napoleon make love with nassau dirigeant wife and he is angry lol
Moreover, visit state diplomat is the only way to improve Relationship. Am i wrong?
I offer local support too, assuming it helps as well, but I really think there is a bug or lock somewhere : Nassau flat out refuses 100% of the time. After 30 or 35 tries it can't be a coincidence. Haven't tried with Hesse though.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:08 am
by tony luke
Trust me Hesse is just as bad .... Should have used a model more akin to Crown of Glory or EU4.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:40 am
by Mimii2
tony luke wrote:Trust me Hesse is just as bad .... Should have used a model more akin to Crown of Glory or EU4.
So how is it possible to create wesphalia?
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:21 am
by tony luke
Sorry Mimii2, I do not know of anyone who has done it, happy to hear from anyone who has. I prefer Iceberg's mod - in that you can annex minors, at substantial cost, and actually build and use the minor countries forces. This mod means you don't have your minor nation forces sitting around doing nothing, (AI controlled) and best of all enables you to have a real Napoleonic flavour by creating Divisions etc. of these minor forces.
Cheers,
AKL
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:41 pm
by vicberg
Iceberg? LOL
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:57 pm
by Montbrun
The twin duchies of Nassau-Weilburg and Nassau-Usingen remained neutral during 1805, and early 1806. The Duchies joined the Confederation of the Rhine (becoming French satellites) on July 16, 1806, and on August 30, 1806, merged to form the "Hertzogdum Nassau," (Duchy of Nassau) to avoid being absorbed into metropolitan France. The Duchy of Nassau defected to the Coalition during November, 1813.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:50 am
by Pocus
veji1 wrote:Nassau has never signed after more than 30 or 35 tries over several games, including with relationship at 95 at best and mostly north of 90.
Send me the saved game, I'll check what are the odds.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:51 am
by tony luke
Another thing I have noticed is that not only do they never accept your offers (even Nassau which starts at 95!) but when ever you offer state visit or commercial or whatever, and they don't accept, then it decreases your relationship!
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:12 pm
by Pocus
Hi guys,
I decided to tackle the bull by the horns and ... bug fixed! After some search there and there it turned out the culprit was not relationship bias or even diplomacy, it was about an AI 'optimization' where in some conditions minors nations at peace don't check all algorithms, and diplomacy was skipped...
In the next beta patch then!