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Forming a Corps

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:43 pm
by JBuford
Well, it seems i am too stupid to see the obvious...?

I started the Grand Campaign (April 1861) and its now end of July 1861 but i am still not able to form Corps. I read in the manual how to form a Corps (2 or 3 Star Leader with units are selected, in the same province as the Army), but the option is still greyed out...

Any hints what i am missing here?

-JB

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:46 pm
by Ace
The corps can be formed from March 1862 onwards. Initial civil war armies had not implemented corps command structures in their armies. Just ignore the button until then. Hope this helps.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:56 pm
by JBuford
Thanks!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:46 am
by Stelteck
May be a tooltip can be added to explain the entry date of corps (and divisions) on the corp&division creation button.

There was the same limitation in the first civil war game and i remembered raging a lot against the corp system while trying to created corp at the start of the campaign for hours.

It is probably a major newbie problem.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:56 am
by ERISS
JBuford wrote: its now end of July 1861 but i am still not able to form Corps. I read in the manual how to form a Corps, but the option is still greyed out...

Ace wrote:The corps can be formed from March 1862 onwards. Initial civil war armies had not implemented corps command structures in their armies.

That should be told in the manual and in the tooltip.
If there are more twarting features, it will make new players flee...

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:58 am
by Ace
Good suggestion.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:30 pm
by H Gilmer3
Stelteck wrote:May be a tooltip can be added to explain the entry date of corps (and divisions) on the corp&division creation button.

There was the same limitation in the first civil war game and i remembered raging a lot against the corp system while trying to created corp at the start of the campaign for hours.

It is probably a major newbie problem.


I remember MISSING the notification and going several months before I finally experimented and found out I could start forming them!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:34 pm
by Ace
Well historically CSA formed corps after Seven days battles and just prior to Shiloh. USA pretty much did the same. If you are familiar with history, that should be your reference dates when the corps would become available.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:48 pm
by PhilThib
A message will pop up about corps formation as a reminder of this (next patch)

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:53 pm
by ERISS
Ace wrote:If you are familiar with history,

Sure. But a game should be for History newbies too,
and moreover Ageod told their games are educative,
so their games should be first for newbs to them learn History.
Yes, it is more work for devs than just make games for connoisseurs.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:30 pm
by Ace
I agree, anyway, the problem has already been addressed in beta patch (under testing :) )

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:36 pm
by FENRIS
don't forget : division in october november 1861 :thumbsup:

:mdr:

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:08 pm
by Matto
Just to be sure ... from which year I can use rocks? :bonk:

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:09 pm
by Ace
FENRIS wrote:don't forget : division in october november 1861 :thumbsup:

:mdr:


Try to convince the designers. They have not said it, but it seems to me they are afraid that it will confuse new players as much as this corps issue did :)

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:12 pm
by Ace
From March 1862, not sure if it is early or late March.

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:50 pm
by James D Burns
July 1862 Union game and form corp button is still greyed out.

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:52 pm
by AndrewKurtz
James D Burns wrote:July 1862 Union game and form corp button is still greyed out.


Leaders are active?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:09 pm
by James D Burns
AndrewKurtz wrote:Leaders are active?


Yep. As this screenshot shows Foster is given full assault orders but button is greyed out. I’m also having issues with income, so it may be my game is corrupted if others are not seeing these issues too. Here’s the thread I posted about income at Matrix:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3412965


Jim
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:15 pm
by Mickey3D
And future corps leader must be within range of an army. This range is dependant on the strategic rating of the army leader.

To check the range, select the army and press the "shift" key : the command range of the army is then displayed.

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:30 pm
by James D Burns
Mickey3D wrote:And future corps leader must be within range of an army. This range is dependant on the strategic rating of the army leader.

To check the range, select the army and press the "shift" key : the command range of the army is then displayed.


Yeah everything is as it should be for a corps to be formed as this screenshot shows. Additionally Kearny is stacked with the army itself and still has a greyed out button.

Jim

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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:47 am
by Elmo
If you mouse over the Create Corp button it should give you possible reasons why you can't form a corps.

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:57 am
by Ace
James D Burns wrote:Yeah everything is as it should be for a corps to be formed as this screenshot shows. Additionally Kearny is stacked with the army itself and still has a greyed out button.

Jim

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Kearney should be in seperate stack from the army stack to be able to form corps. Enable corps button makes current stack a corps stack. He cannot make an army stack a corps stack, can he?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:27 am
by James D Burns
No one can form a corp period, I stacked them together to show it all in a single screenshot. In or out of the stack its greyed out.

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:10 am
by Boomer
Yeah, Jim's right, corps formation is bugged. In my current game it's late June 1862 and I have 2 ready-to-go corps under Lee in Virginia and A.S. Johnston in KY, and neither of their corps can be formed. The corps box is greyed out. In the attached screen you can see that Polk is two star, force capable, and is even in the same region as the army, so no out of range penalties involved... and still no corps-forming ability.

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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:00 am
by Pocus
Sorry for the miss, a last minute change in an event created this error.

We will fix it asap, with a quickfix if allowed to do so.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:55 pm
by minipol
I have encountered this bug as well. I have the latest beta patch installed but it doesn't seem fixed yet.
For the moment, I don't really need it, pounding the south with my 2000+ and 3000+ power armies :)

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:09 pm
by Ace
The latest patch fixes this 100% if you start a new game.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:33 pm
by minipol
Hmm so I need to start a new game to fix this? Is there a way to get that fixed in my current save game?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:48 pm
by Ace
Yes there is, but it requires a little modding on your part. If you are up to it, I can explain you how.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:25 pm
by minipol
I wouldn't mind trying my hand at fixing the save game.
It would be quite helpful, thanks !