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Guys,

If a legion loses an element (cohort) completely can it be replaced? If so what conditions are required for that to happen?

I've had some pretty shocking battle losses and wonder whether it's best to train up a brand new legion or if it's possible for the bruised and battered units to recover their strength completely.


Thanks

Yes, elements get replaced. You do need to have the relevant reserve unit (F2). The exact conditions under which a unit has a chance of having a element replaced depend on the choice you made in the attrition levels (I think). Easiest gets replacements when not attacking, most difficult only gets replacements when resting in a place with a depot (hope I got this right, if not someone else will come along and correct me shortly ). It never is a sure thing, just a chance, under the right conditions.

If a cohort is only 25% damaged/red, does only 25% of a F2 replacement cohort get used to replace?

No. The replacement chit that you purchase in the F2 screen can be used to repair/replace a variable number of cohorts. On the F2, if you take the total damage for a unit type, which can be found at the top of the symbol, and divide by 10, this will give you the approximate number of chits required to fix all of the damage. This is how the system works in other AGEOD games and I assume the same for AJE. Hopefully, I will be corrected if wrong.

In the Sully vs. Marius scenario I had a legion reduced to the Legate element only. I detached it from the army and parked it in Dyraccheam and a number of turns later it had added a Legion cavalry element so I suspect that given time and available replacements they will reconstitute provided at least the Legate survives.

If a legion loses an element (cohort) completely can it be replaced? If so what conditions are required for that to happen?

Yes. The manual says that with historical attrition ON, you only get them if you park the unit at a depot. I think that even with it OFF, theres a low % if not at a depot.
Just find or build a depot, and you'll get elements back.

The amount of replacements needed varies based on if the element is damaged or gone. Gone elements require a 1:1 replacement ratio, you will use 1 chit to 1 element replaced. From what I have seen so far, each legion only gets 1 element replaced per turn. (This agrees with other AGEOD games).

The following is based on other AGEOD games, and I assume it is still true. If you have the element, but it is damaged, then a roll happens to see if you consume a replacement chit to repair the unit. If you pass the roll, the chit is not consumed, and the unit gets some (or all) hits replaced. If the roll fails, you lose the chit, but still get the hits replaced.

From what I have seen so far, each legion only gets 1 element replaced per turn. (This agrees with other AGEOD games).

Uhm...but with one month per turn you need a full year to replace a last element legion, it seems too much.

You may be right, but then I'm not an expert in ancient history either. I'll bring the subject to the team though.

11 months I think - you have one element left after all . It takes longer than building a new legion. But you can use the legion meanwhile, it can stay in place (new legions are build in their home provinces, those can be a long way off), and the number of legions is limited. So it might still be worthwhile to rebuild that legion.
(A legion donw to one element would be pretty rare I think, and you generally have bigger problems to worry about right then - a two element legion right now, might be preferable to a ful legion 4 turns of somewher in the province).

Bertram wrote:11 months I think - you have one element left after all . It takes longer than building a new legion. But you can use the legion meanwhile, it can stay in place (new legions are build in their home provinces, those can be a long way off), and the number of legions is limited. So it might still be worthwhile to rebuild that legion.
(A legion donw to one element would be pretty rare I think, and you generally have bigger problems to worry about right then - a two element legion right now, might be preferable to a ful legion 4 turns of somewher in the province).

right, these are potential candidates for the objective towns with low loyalty. taking sure they are counted for you (if more than a legatus element is left), also they could sustain sieges despite low strength

remember that this kind of questions has raised been for replacements at all.

depending which source you quote, which time period you want to describe, the replacement came as full cohorts (mostly during winter quarter), no replacements at all but full new legions, ad hoc replacements with every man at hand, but not granting them citizenship for the service etc... fluctuation was enormous.

Bertram wrote:(A legion donw to one element would be pretty rare I think, and you generally have bigger problems to worry about right then - a two element legion right now, might be preferable to a ful legion 4 turns of somewher in the province).

Actually playing Oriental in the Septimus Severe scenario one of my core legion became quickly reduce to the Legatus only, and since then he is resting in Epheuseus i have been waiting for months that smthg happen but nothing, maybe because I am not controling Itay

It can also be that you don't have replacement chits, or other units are prioritized. To prioritized a unit for replacement, put it in passive mode.

I think a lot of people who do not get replacements forgot to buy them through the F2 screen. Recruitment varied a lot in Roman times. In the game I find that you get the best results by having a reserve of about 5 to 10 in the replacement screen, pull units of the line, place them in a structure and have them in a region with a depot. Helped me get legions back in the fight in months.

Oh, and make sure the supply situation is more than adequate as well.

You may be right, but then I'm not an expert in ancient history either. I'll bring the subject to the team though.

Thanks Pocus, surely is not easy to understand how to mange it in an historical way, sometimes the legions were disbanded but most of the time they were refill because their loyalty was very important, Caesar docet!

Guys, I have 55 replacements chips in F2 - controlling Orient really gives you a lot of money ! Actually I think it might be because of the force limitation, i am recruiting two new legions meanwhile in Syria so this might be the key factor. Anyway, I moved it to Antioch, where it was possible to recruit legions, if any reinforcement is possible it should be avalaible there. As I am in better position than my opponents ( f7), it actually doesn t matter much to me now.

After buying chits, are replacements distributed automatically?

Bis wrote:After buying chits, are replacements distributed automatically?

yes

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