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I've begun playing this again after a long break, and I find myself wondering about things that I may once have known the answer to. I have used the search function quite a bit, but haven't found the answers I'm looking for, so here goes:

1) I've been playing the GC exclusively (as reds), although I did start the short campaign, just to see the OOB, and I was surprised by the relatively high number of 2-star generals, many of which I haven't seen in my current GC game (or ever before, iirc). I'm talking about people like Porkhov, Vassiliev, Nadiozhny, Remezov, Sollogub, Matsiletsky, Khudiakov, Grittis, Liubimov, Gekker, Kniaginsky, Zhidanov, Samoylo, Avksentevsky, Shorin and Mezheninov. There's also a 3-star general that I haven't seen before: Antonov-Ovseenko.

In my current game, I've been using the "get a general" option quite a bit, but I still haven't seen any of those guys. Is there any way to get them in the grand campaign, or are they only included in the short campaign?

2) I seem to recall having to training officers the last time I played, but now there's only one and he's stuck in Moscow. As it is, there's no way (I believe) to train a similar number of recruits to what is present at the start of the short campaign. I might be able to build a similar number of divisions (although I doubt it), but with just one guy to train them, most would be raw recruits. Is there any other way to train troops from recruits to regular?

3) I don't understand Lenins special ability, Sovnarkom Chairman. Does it even do anything? I seem to recall that he had the propagandist trait, but I guess that has been removed for some reason?

Thanks in advance for any answers. I might add some questions later on.

1) I've been playing the GC exclusively (as reds), although I did start the short campaign, just to see the OOB, and I was surprised by the relatively high number of 2-star generals, many of which I haven't seen in my current GC game (or ever before, iirc). I'm talking about people like Porkhov, Vassiliev, Nadiozhny, Remezov, Sollogub, Matsiletsky, Khudiakov, Grittis, Liubimov, Gekker, Kniaginsky, Zhidanov, Samoylo, Avksentevsky, Shorin and Mezheninov. There's also a 3-star general that I haven't seen before: Antonov-Ovseenko.

In my current game, I've been using the "get a general" option quite a bit, but I still haven't seen any of those guys. Is there any way to get them in the grand campaign, or are they only included in the short campaign?

I've got about half of those generals from the get general option in my current PBEM. I've used it just about every turn for 8-10 months now. I wish they would give us a few more generals without having to buy them all though.

2) I seem to recall having to training officers the last time I played, but now there's only one and he's stuck in Moscow. As it is, there's no way (I believe) to train a similar number of recruits to what is present at the start of the short campaign. I might be able to build a similar number of divisions (although I doubt it), but with just one guy to train them, most would be raw recruits. Is there any other way to train troops from recruits to regular?

As the Reds you just get Bonch-Bruevich in Moscow as far as I know. Maybe there's another later on. The reds just sent mass conscripts into battle with a few good units for the most part. Kinda like the general issue above, it emphasizes how you can't run the Red army like you do the white army.

3) I don't understand Lenins special ability, Sovnarkom Chairman. Does it even do anything? I seem to recall that he had the propagandist trait, but I guess that has been removed for some reason?

I'm not sure either.

Thanks for the reply and the answers, Stonewall. With regards to the recruits, I realize that they were mostly untrained. But seeing stack after stack of trained units in the short campaign made me wonder.

AFAIK, conscripts will be able to train later on, if they get enough experience. Does anyone know how much experience is required?

1) Every general on your list can be obtained by the "get a general" option. And there are a lot more where they came from.
The pool of available generals is a lot thinner for other factions: with Don Cossaks, Siberian White or Komuch you can run out of recruitable generals quickly. In a Short Campaign game with the Siberians the get a general option turned out to be completely useless (every general in the pool is already on the map).

2) There is at least one additional training officer in the Red leader pool (you can get him via the "get a general" option.

3) As far as I can tell Lenin is useless now.

4) Automatic upgrades of units due to experience gain doesn't seem to happen in RUS. At least I can't remember seeing an according message. It might happen without you getting a notification, though. If so it must be rare. In my opinion the order of battle for the Short Campaign has far to many fully trained soldiers. All armies should consist mainly of conscript units.

Thank you Mr Mexican. I don't suppose you recall the name of that other training general? Not that it really matters, I suppose, since I'll get him eventually anyway (or not).

I actually have seen 3 or 4 conscript elements being trained into regulars, without a training officer present, with a message telling me when it happened. I assume that was due to their experience, but I'm not sure, since I wasn't really paying attention to it. All of the guys being upgraded came from the battered remains of the units starting in the Don area. They were sitting in Tsaritsyn when the upgrades took place.

Shaposhnikov.

Cool, thanks.