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Matchups, Rules, and Results

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:20 am
by Daxil
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:28 pm
by DarthMath
Just three little questions :
Why use of "standard attrition" and not the "historical" one ?
Is there a compatibility problem with different versions of Gray quickfixes used with the 1.13b ?
Just to be sure, is our host Rebelcat or Longhairedlout ? or just my opponent ?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:09 pm
by Spharv2
Yeah, I'm not understanding the hosting line either. I was hoping I wasn't the only one who didn't get it. :)

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:28 pm
by Daxil
DarthMath wrote:Just three little questions :
Why use of "standard attrition" and not the "historical" one ?
Is there a compatibility problem with different versions of Gray quickfixes used with the 1.13b ?
Just to be sure, is our host Rebelcat or Longhairedlout ? or just my opponent ?


1"Historical attrition" was considered too harsh, i.e. ahistorical, by some players in the first tournament, so we we went with standard. That carried over to this one.
2I'm not sure. We'll have to inquire with him.
3The host will be a neutral third party. You need to e-mail both Rebelcat and Longhairedlout to figure out which one wants to do it. You should also contact your opponent just to make sure everyone's on the same page.

Feel free to throw anymore questions.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:33 pm
by Jim-NC
How are hosts choosen?
Does this mean that the tournament players must host other groups' games? For example, I could host a game played by Banks6060 and Redemmer, while Redeemer hosts a match between DarthMath and biggp07? Or do we need to use non tournament people as host? Such as Soundoff or maybe Queeen AM?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:35 pm
by DarthMath
Daxil wrote:1"Historical attrition" was considered too harsh, i.e. ahistorical, by some players in the first tournament, so we we went with standard. That carried over to this one.
2I'm not sure. We'll have to inquire with him.
3The host will be a neutral third party. You need to e-mail both Rebelcat and Longhairedlout to figure out which one wants to do it. You should also contact your opponent just to make sure everyone's on the same page.

Feel free to throw anymore questions.


Thanks for your answers, Daxil.
I asked for the 2) because I have a PBEM in 1.13 quickfix2 and don't want to lose it if we have to change the version.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:39 pm
by Daxil
Jim-NC wrote:How are hosts choosen?
Does this mean that the tournament players must host other groups' games? For example, I could host a game played by Banks6060 and Redemmer, while Redeemer hosts a match between DarthMath and biggp07? Or do we need to use non tournament people as host? Such as Soundoff or maybe Queeen AM?


No, you should host only those on the row directly adjacent to you. In your case Gustfire and vonRocko. In some cases we may need you to host other matches too, but this is how we'll start.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:40 pm
by Daxil
DarthMath wrote:Thanks for your answers, Daxil.
I asked for the 2) because I have a PBEM in 1.13 quickfix2 and don't want to lose it if we have to change the version.


NP, I'm checking with Gray now. If they're both 1.13b I'd assume they'd be compatible, but we'll see.

Habeus Corpus

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:16 pm
by Daxil
Do not use Habeus Corpus unless you want your points affected. It makes points either freeze or go backwards in that state. This is an official warning, so if someone does it they can't feign ignorance.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:28 pm
by Nikel
With Daxil's permission :hat:

His document in pdf format for those interested

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:54 pm
by Daxil
Thanks, sir.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:57 pm
by CWNut77
Very interesting -- My current PBEM opponent (who shall remain nameless unless he chooses to step forth ;) ) is a challenger in the tournament and a formidable opponent -- so I shall be watching closely :)

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:01 pm
by Nikel
Daxil wrote:Thanks, sir.



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Question

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:06 pm
by Cressy
Sorry about this, I guess slimerock is my opponent, as far as me hosting for someone and who is sending me a file, i am not sure. could some one fill in the blanks for me. :confused:

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:09 pm
by DarthMath
You're right for your opponent. That's a good start !! ;)
You must ask to Bertram or Stegosarus Army to host your games.
Good luck for the tournament.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 12:02 am
by Daxil
Just got clarification from Gray on the patch issue. The quick fixes are compatible with vanilla. If you want the benefits of the quick fixes you'll want to update "before" your match starts. Apparently 1.14 will release in about 2 weeks so for rnd 2 we should all have the same versions.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:22 am
by stegosarus_army
does the tournament start today?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:51 am
by Daxil
Yes

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:04 am
by Gray_Lensman
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:09 pm
by Daxil
FYI Vonrocko dropped so we have Tagwyn taking his spot.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:10 pm
by Bertram
Slimey and Cressy : I send you your first files. Should be in the wires right now :) .

Bertram

Hosting

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:15 pm
by GustFire
Do the two opponents share hosting duties, or does one player host both games, in my case, for Jim-NC and Jabberwock?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:58 pm
by Daxil
You should probably have one of you hosting both for consistency.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:02 am
by Jim-NC
Gustfire/Tagwyn,
I am hosting, and have sent you your proper 1st turns (I hope). ;)

Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:51 am
by bigus
Daxil wrote:Just got clarification from Gray on the patch issue. The quick fixes are compatible with vanilla. If you want the benefits of the quick fixes you'll want to update "before" your match starts. Apparently 1.14 will release in about 2 weeks so for rnd 2 we should all have the same versions.


From what I understand, the Far West scenario won't be in the next patch. Perhaps you can pick an alternate scenario or stick with 1.13b till the 62 West scenario matchups.

Gustfire/Tagwyn

Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:28 pm
by GustFire
Jim-NC wrote:Gustfire/Tagwyn,
I am hosting, and have sent you your proper 1st turns (I hope). ;)


almost :-)

I sent you an email about it.


I got your ord's, waiting for jabberwock.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:46 pm
by Dixicrat
bigus wrote:From what I understand, the Far West scenario won't be in the next patch. Perhaps you can pick an alternate scenario or stick with 1.13b till the 62 West scenario matchups.


"Far West" won't be in the next release? I'm sorry to hear this. IMHO, it's one of the finest scenarios in the game. It's somewhat like a shock course in logistics. :evilgrin: For what my opinion is worth, I recommend that we stick with 13b until completion of both the preliminary and first round.

On a different matter...
I'm hosting for PascalB and Spharv2, and I've never hosted for anyone before. Is it possible for me to set a different password for each of them, somehow?

I'd really like to do this, and it has absolutely nothing to do with any question of trust or honor. It seems to me that the chance of the host accidentally sending the wrong file to the wrong person is something that will happen, in this tournament... especially with two games being played simultaneously. It would be a shame for a turn to be compromised, simply because someone accidentally opened their opponents position because it was mistakenly sent to them.

If someone could provide a mini-tutorial in this thread about passwords, I think it would be appreciated by more people than just me. ;)

Thanks in advance, for any response.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:30 am
by Daxil
If you really wanted to do it that way - as far as I'm aware - the easiest way would be to install the game twice. Although you could also go in and change the password under options: compression each time you received a turn. Good idea to bring up with the programmers - the ability to store two passwords for simultaneous games..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:50 am
by soundoff
Dixicrat wrote:
On a different matter...
I'm hosting for PascalB and Spharv2, and I've never hosted for anyone before. Is it possible for me to set a different password for each of them, somehow?

I'd really like to do this, and it has absolutely nothing to do with any question of trust or honor. It seems to me that the chance of the host accidentally sending the wrong file to the wrong person is something that will happen, in this tournament... especially with two games being played simultaneously. It would be a shame for a turn to be compromised, simply because someone accidentally opened their opponents position because it was mistakenly sent to them.

If someone could provide a mini-tutorial in this thread about passwords, I think it would be appreciated by more people than just me. ;)

Thanks in advance, for any response.



I dont think you need to set a password. Under what I'd consider to be 'normal' PBEM play where the host is actually playing one side the non host sets their own password so that the host cannot open up the opponents file. So perhaps all that needs to happen is for both players to set their own passwords.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:08 am
by Bertram
Dont use compressed files, just zip them afterwards. No password needed. With a host the player only gets his own turn, he can not "cheat" in any way.

Bertram