Discussion forum about the wargames Birth of America, AACW, Ageod games and strategy games in general
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powloon1 wrote: on the paradox forum there are plans to migrate their AGEOD forum over here.
After many weeks of discussions, Ageod (http://www.ageod.com) is very pleased to announce that Pride of Nations and Rise of Prussia are coming home. From 1st March Paradox Interactive have surrendered their commercial rights to sell any Ageod game including these two flagship titles.
As many may know, Ageod joined the Slitherine Group in January this year. Both Pride of Nations and Rise of Prussia were built on the AGEOD engine and were released during Ageod’s period of time with Paradox and since leaving Paradox and until joining the Slitherine Group their future has been uncertain. “We now have to tell you that the future is bright!”, says Philippe Thibaut, Director of Ageod “and to celebrate this move we can announce that we are working on a patch to upgrade both titles. This will only be available through our Group outlets”.
“Our Policy will be to continue to fully support our developers and their titles at realistic price points, in order that they can continue to bring to users quality turn based strategy games” says JD McNeil, C.E.O. of the Slitherine Group . “This involves the effort and work necessary to support, update and improve our group games as and when this is needed, even long after initial release. So rest assured that we will continue to discuss and engage with our audience, on how and where to patch and add new features where possible”.
As a consequence of this deal, the Ageod forum will be the place to discuss these games and all aspects of future releases, updates and news
Pocus wrote:We are trying to set up a new PON AAR subforum yes
Taillebois wrote:This seems a bit petulant of Paradox. On the other hand Matrix claiming Paradox has "surrendered" their rights seems a bit inflammatory.
Some of us have games from both publishers so this behaviour does us no favours.
BjornB wrote:loki100 wrote:Hi
I'm really sorry to bother you over this. Its just a number of us are heavily involved across the 2 companies and I suspect our only interest is in the games and the material we have generated around those games, not in terms of corporate ownership and licences.
So its now clear that 'archiving' the main AGE-related forums means their effective closure, which is probably a bigger problem around Pride of Nations than any of the others. There is a wealth of material there (scripts and events as well as mods) that was never placed on the AGEOD PoN site as the PI site was always the primary source (unlike say Rise of Prussia which was only very limited on PI). There is a particular consequence of this, in that there is no space on the AGEOD forum for AARs (I guess the original deal was that this went to PI?), so we can't rescue and migrate the material at the moment.
I realise this is utterly selfish but can we have longer to sort out the situation with the PoN AARs than just a week?
Purely personally I find myself in an uncomfortable position. I started as someone who only played Paradox games, bought Rise of Prussia on the strength of the links and some AARs and have found myself increasingly playing AGE-games. This is not a comment on the PDS approach but simply that I play a lot of MP and find the various 'turn-processing' game systems far easier when faced with limited time and the problems of ensuring a group are on line at the same time. I guess, also totally irrelevant to any one else, I invested a lot of time and effort in making the AGEOD AAR sub-forum work (so have a wierd sense of some responsibility).
Sorry, this rambles.
My key request is for a bit of a stay of execution over the AARs so that AGEOD can get something set up and we can sort ourselves out. I realise I have no basis to expect any change to whatever policy has been agreed, but this situation is not the doing of the various individuals who happen to share a liking for the products of both companies.
thanks
Roger
I think that we could let the AAR's stick around a little longer. We need to remove the regular forums however as the IP rights went back to the developers. It is a natural order of things, and to my knowledge this transition is made in good understanding between the companies.
We can not host material for games which we do not own however. Both because the rights to the IP is no longer ours and AGOED might like to take control of their own things. But also because we are releasing many games and must make space for the games that are actually ours.
I will not remove the AAR forums for a while. But I will make it read only so no new contributions can be made. To salvage the AAR's I can only advice to copy paste the material into some other storage.
Don't hesitate to ask if you have any further questions.
Best Regards
Björn