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How do I (peacefully) unify Italy? And more questions!

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:00 pm
by MarkCSA
Also posted on Paradox forum, but no reply, I think the cool kids hang out over here.

I've been bombarding parma and Tuscany with the 'Promote Unification' decisions, and now I get a message that they are ready to accept unification. Great. How do I do this?

Year is 1854 by the way. And in unrelated news, I am already swimming in cash. I am up to the point that I am building structures in other countries (Silk in South of France) is this even supposed to be possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:26 am
by H Gilmer3
I think Paradox has a lot of good posters but there seems to be a lot of younger posters there. Over here seems to be a little more older players.

Oh, and no idea on your question, sorry.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:01 am
by vaalen
MarkCSA wrote:Also posted on Paradox forum, but no reply, I think the cool kids hang out over here.

I've been bombarding parma and Tuscany with the 'Promote Unification' decisions, and now I get a message that they are ready to accept unification. Great. How do I do this?

Year is 1854 by the way. And in unrelated news, I am already swimming in cash. I am up to the point that I am building structures in other countries (Silk in South of France) is this even supposed to be possible?


I do not know about how you do the unification, as I have never played a country that had unification as an issue. This is just a guess, but if the message says they are ready to accept unification, perhaps all you have to do is end turn. I would first check all messages, and the reply to treaties section of the diplomacy section before I tried this, to make sure there was nothing else I could do.

If I am wrong, you can always reload the previous turn.

As for building silk farms in another country, you should only be able to do this if you have a commercial treaty with them. But this is bugged in the current build, and you may be able to build them even without a treaty, but this is not WAD.

Hopefully someone else who knows more will also respond, but this is what i would try.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:41 am
by SonOfAGhost
Unification: playing GBR myself, and don't think I've heard of anyone going for peaceful unification, kudos to you for trying. Places I would look for a new option on getting those messages: F1 decrees and laws, F9 treaties available and Alt-F4 regional decisions. I can see the logic of having an option in any of those. Alternatively, might it be a trigger event only when you have ALL the city states agreeable?

Silk: I think this is to represent fine garment production rather than actual silk farming. I'm seeing it in Venice, Milan, Marseilles and Lyon. A little surprised Paris doesn't have some as well if I'm right about the reasoning behind it.

Side note: Thinking about that led me to ponder the Silk Road, First time I noticed that the Ottomans forgot to change the name to Istanbul. Which raises the obvious question: Why not Byzantium? :)

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:18 am
by Sir Garnet
The history of the term Istanbul is interesting and even amusing, but as for the policy of using that name for the whole city, as opposed to reference to the old city portion of Konstantiniye, that happened with the Republic, which post-dates this game. It continues in places to be referred to in various forms of "Constantinople". Fortunately St. Petersburg has reverted in name so we don't have the absence of "Leningrad" confusing people. Not to mention Karl Marx Stadt.

Personally, I think the English version of the game should have major Chinese cities named Peking, Shanghai, and Canton to adhere to the 19th Century theme, but I fear that would confuse the young trained to PRC nomenclature. Not to mention Ho Chi Minh City. Best not even talk about India!

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:45 am
by Offworlder
MarkCSA wrote:Also posted on Paradox forum, but no reply, I think the cool kids hang out over here.

I've been bombarding parma and Tuscany with the 'Promote Unification' decisions, and now I get a message that they are ready to accept unification. Great. How do I do this?

Year is 1854 by the way. And in unrelated news, I am already swimming in cash. I am up to the point that I am building structures in other countries (Silk in South of France) is this even supposed to be possible?


If it similar to the unification of Germany, there will be an event in the future (probably around 1859) which will check if you satisfy the criteria for unification and then you get a unified Italy. Guess you should also pay attention to the Papal States and Two Sicilies as well. I believe Mr Garibaldi will be opening a door there...

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:16 pm
by SonOfAGhost
Offworlder wrote:I believe Mr Garibaldi will be opening a door there...

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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:44 pm
by Offworlder
Lol!

I was referring to the whiskered one :) But hey a ppg would come in handy...

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:22 pm
by MarkCSA
Checked every conceivable screen known to man, it appear I will be waiting for some event.

Regarding the Silk, I was wondering if, as Italy, I should be able to build a silk farm in French national territory (the one to the left of Nice/Nissa). Is this Foreign Direct Investment?

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:19 am
by SonOfAGhost
MarkCSA wrote:Regarding the Silk, I was wondering if, as Italy, I should be able to build a silk farm in French national territory (the one to the left of Nice/Nissa). Is this Foreign Direct Investment?


I know it's intended that you can build resource gathering in minor countries, so I don't see why not in majors as well.

Technically it's not Italian government that's building it, it's an Italian business doing so (albeit at your direction). Early multi-national corporations :)

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:15 am
by Offworlder
As Prussia I invest a lot in Austria Hungary since they have a lot of resources that are required by German industry (minerals, iron and nitrates plus wool). I also have large investments in the US (gold and oil on the West Coast and cotton and tobacco on the east coast)

As to minor countries, they seem to go on strike quite often. Gold mines in Mexico never produced anything, while iron ore mines in Sweden go off and on all the time. Spanish investments are not so productive since the Carlist revolt started.

Yet for some reason I can't invest in the Ottoman empire, even though I'm an ally. That may be a glitch though...