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Question about f4 screen

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:11 am
by Zenchess
I bought a copy of this for me and for a friend for some droppbox pbem action. But something is bugging my friend and I was wondering if anyone can figure it out:

Choose great britain in the grand campaign. Set all your overseas sales of wood to 0. Set all your domestic market sales of wood to as low as possible.

Now, in the "Commerce and Transactions" tab , wood is listed at -5. But who is it selling to? And where do you find this information from?

It is not being used by factories because there's only 2 wood being lost per turn from production according to some tooltip.

Also, if I change the projected buy slider to 0%, this -5 dissapears entirely. This leads me to believe that this field is talking about sales - but again - who the heck am I selling to if it's not domestic markets and I've turned off all external sales in the "T" screen over great britain?

(Just out of curiosity sake I travelled the world to see if I was selling on the "t" screen in another country but it does not appear that I am.)

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:45 am
by Prussian Prince
He is selling it to his own people. He can set the slider in the F4 screen to 10 percent and that is as low as it will go.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:52 am
by Zenchess
I don't think that is the case. I loaded this scenario and if you change the percentage of goods sold to population, the "-5" in commerce and transactions does not change at all. Capital does change indicating that they are buying this. Overall balance changes.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:21 pm
by Doctoxic
This is what i think is going on - but happy to be corrected.....

If you hold the mouse over the region your capital is in and press "T" it will show you everything that is being sold by your country.

Usually the the figures in the T box and the F4 box will match up - well, they do for me except Cereals for some reason. The T says 9 but the F4 says 12 and i have no idea why there is a difference :(


The sliders are just a tool to that just affects what the F4 screen assumes you will end up buying on the market - so if set to 100% F4 will assume that all your requested transactions are successful - however in practice this may not turn out to be the case.

So, in your example setting the slider would assume you make no sales hence the figure changing from -5 to 0.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:40 pm
by Aragos
Right. The sliders are a planning tool; they have nothing to do with buying and selling products.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:20 am
by Zenchess
Yeah, but I did go to the capital and press 'T' and we've already set all sales to 0. (I even went to every great britain territory and pressed "T" over it to see if anyone else was selling stuff)

And yet still the -5 =)

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:24 am
by Doctoxic
Zenchess wrote:Yeah, but I did go to the capital and press 'T' and we've already set all sales to 0. (I even went to every great britain territory and pressed "T" over it to see if anyone else was selling stuff)

And yet still the -5 =)


i had this as well - i think it must be a bug - if you T over each of your trade areas you should find whats being sold