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Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 1:38 am**

Well, here it is the first little game of VGN following the current trend of posting leader pictures...

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Let's see who is the first to get 10 out of 10. :w00t:

If it is too difficult... I will start giving out clues about them... at least try to get their nationality first.

We will see what is the prize for the winner of the game. :thumbsup:

Answers so far...
1-Russia - Eduard Totleben (vorkosigan)
2-Russia - Mikhail Skobelev (Nikel)
3-France - Charles Denis Bourbaki (vorkosigan)
4-Japan - Togo Heihachiro (Nikel)
5-Russia - Stepan Osipovich Makarov (Nikel)
6-Prussia - Karl Friedrich von Steinmetz (vorkosigan)
7-Prussia - Edwin Freiherr von Manteuffel (vorkosigan)
8-Japan - Iwao Oyama (vorkosigan)
9-Italy - Giuseppe Garibaldi (Nikel)
10-Cuba - Antonio Maceo Grajales (Nikel)

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:11 am**

Being the great history buff that I am, I can unabashedly claim that I do not know anyone in those pictures. :mdr:

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:17 am**

RELee wrote:Being the great history buff that I am, I can unabashedly claim that I do not know anyone in those pictures.

baahhh... you should at least get the great italian guy in there... :siffle:

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 1:29 pm**

Muahaha

... I see that nobody dares to guess who they are...

I will post their nationalities later today to give you a clue... but it is not that hard... :siffle:

I guess you already realized that 2 of them are japanese :eyebrow:

... and the one with the "weird" beard?... come on! don't tell me you do not know him! :w00t:

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 1:36 pm**

Only 4 so far here :bonk:

First row

2 Mikhail Skobelev Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78

4 Togo Heihachiro, Admiral in the Imperial Japanese Navy, Russo-japanese war

5 Stepan Osipovich Makarov, Russian vice-admiral, Russo-japanese war

In the second row the 4th must be Garibaldi, no idea of the rest

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 1:55 pm**

Nikel wrote:2 Mikhail Skobelev Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78

Yep, that was not so easy

His heart-attack death at the early age of thirty-nine was a blow to Russia's Army.

Nikel wrote:4 Togo Heihachiro, Admiral in the Imperial Japanese Navy, Russo-japanese war

This was rather easy, I was surprised nobody mentioned Togo before...

Nikel wrote:5 Stepan Osipovich Makarov, Russian vice-admiral, Russo-japanese war

Makarov "beard" should have helped here... no?

Admiral Makarov was killed in action during the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905 on the battleship Petropavlovsk after the ship struck a mine.

Nikel wrote:In the second row the 4th must be Garibaldi, no idea of the rest

Yes, the "Hero of the two World" (apart from fighting in many conflicts in Europe, Garibaldi also fought in America in many wars, including the Uruguayan Civil War)

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 2:00 pm**

And the clues for the rest? :neener:

Oh, Togo is the surname, not the name

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 2:09 pm**

Nikel wrote:And the clues for the rest?

Well, if you are really want to know...
1-Russia
2-Russia
3-France
4-Japan
5-Russia
6-Prussia
7-Prussia
8-Japan
9-Italy
10-Cuba

Nikel wrote:Oh, Togo is the surname, not the name

Yeah, I know, I had some japanese friends.

I usually call it "Togo" because it is smaller and looks more "friendlier", if not, it would be something like "Heida"... and it doesn't look right... :w00t:

I can do that because there is no other "Togo" in the same conflict.

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 2:29 pm**

Ok, answers up to now...
1-Russia - ?
2-Russia - Mikhail Skobelev (Nikel)
3-France - ?
4-Japan - Admiral Togo Heihachiro (Nikel)
5-Russia - Admiral Stepan Osipovich Makarov (Nikel)
6-Prussia - ?
7-Prussia - ?
8-Japan - ?
9-Italy - Giuseppe Garibaldi (Nikel)
10-Cuba - ?

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 2:42 pm**

10 Antonio Maceo Grajales Cuban War of Independence

I want half the prize

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 2:48 pm**

Nikel wrote:10 Antonio Maceo Grajales Cuban War of Independence

I want half the prize

Yep, Antonio Maceo Grajales, also known as "El Titan de Bronce" (Bronze Titan) for his skin colour. He was second-in-command of the Cuban Army of Independence

The prize is still being worked on...

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 3:20 pm**

3 - General Charles Denis Bourbaki

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 3:32 pm**

Yep, General Charles Denis Bourbaki, commander of the Army of the East (made up of remnants of the Army of the Loire) during the Franco Prussian War.

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 3:49 pm**

His biography is quite interesting: he was offered the throne of Greece, commander of the Imperial Guard who refused to commit it to battle at Gravelotte, shot himself and was lucky (or unlucky) enough to survive it... Not to mention the cadre of French mathematicians publishing several papers under a pseudonym inspired by his name.

I found this video where you can watch the panorama painting by Edouard Castres depicting the internment of Bourbaki's troops after crossing the Swiss frontier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LePm6XxcjQ as displayed at the Bourbaki Panorama Museum at Lucerne.

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 3:59 pm**

6 - General Karl Friedrich von Steinmetz, commander of I Armee. Noted for wasting his troops badly at Gravelotte, got a golden retirement as a reward.

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 4:04 pm**

Yep! good catch!... you are getting near the gold... :thumbsup:

That's another General of the Franco Prussian War...

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 4:59 pm**

Not sure about this one:

7 - General Edwin Freiherr von Manteuffel, successor of von Steinmetz at the command of I. Armee.

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:11 pm**

Yep, General Edwin Freiherr von Manteuffel.

In the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71 he commanded the I Corps under Steinmetz, distinguishing himself in the battle of Colombey-Neuilly, and in the repulse of Bazaine at Noisseville (see Franco-German War). He succeeded Steinmetz in October in the command of the I. army, won the battle of Amiens against General Farre, and occupied Rouen, but was less fortunate against Faidherbe at Pont Noyelles and Bapaume.

In January 1871 he commanded the newly formed Army of the South, which he led, in spite of hard frost, through the Côte d'Or and over the plateau of Langres, cut off Bourbaki's Army of the East (80,000 men), and, after the action of Pontarlier, compelled it to cross the Swiss frontier, where it was disarmed. His immediate reward was the Grand Cross of the order of the Iron Cross, and at the conclusion of peace he received the Black Eagle. When the Southern Army was disbanded Manteuffel commanded first the II. army, and, from June 1871 until 1873, the army of occupation left in France, showing great tact in a difficult position.

After the occupation, the Emperor granted von Manteuffel the rank of Field Marshal.

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:13 pm**

8 - Field Marshal Iwao Oyama, CO of the Imperial Japanese Army deployed at Manchuria during the Russo-Japanese War

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:21 pm**

Yep, only one to go...

In the Sino-Japanese War, Ōyama was appointed Commander-in-Chief of the IJA 2nd Army, which after landing on Liaotung Peninsula, carried Port Arthur by storm, and subsequently crossed to Shantung, where it captured the fortress of Weihaiwei.

For these services Ōyama received the title of marquis under the kazoku peerage system, and, three years later, he became field-marshal. In the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905 he was named commander-in-chief of the Japanese armies in Manchuria. After Japan's victory, Emperor Meiji elevated him to the rank of kōshaku (公爵 = prince).

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:33 pm**

1 - Lieutnant Colonel Eduard Totleben, Engineer in charge of assiting Admirals Kornilov and Nakhimov during the Siege of Sevastopol

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:36 pm**

Remembered his face from a portrait in this book...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crimean-War-Clash-Empires/dp/1862272387/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242405306&sr=1-17 which I found a bit curious: it was quite caustic when discussing the abilities of certain characters who played a part in the Crimean drama...

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:42 pm**

Oh Yeah!

Well, it is a draw then... 5 for Nikel... 5 for vorkosigan... no winner decided... :evilgrin:

By the way, both from Spain... :siffle:

Now, you will have to wait until I get home to get some kind of prize...

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:43 pm**

By the way... if you now think carefully... what can you guess from all this? any interesting idea?

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 5:47 pm**

Perhaps that the forecasts of our PM about getting soon out of the recession will be right after all? :bonk:

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 2:30 am**

Well, you can go to this thread to get your prize...
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=14337

Of course... only the ones that got correctly some leader pictures can get in there... :winner:

Well... actually, that was not true... :thumbsup:

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 2:34 am**

vorkosigan wrote:Perhaps that the forecasts of our PM about getting soon out of the recession will be right after all?

Baaaahhh... you complain about "Shoemaker", but only spaniards got who these people were. :siffle:

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 8:46 am**

vorkosigan wrote:Noted for wasting his troops badly at Gravelotte, got a golden retirement as a reward.

Looks exactly like one of our modern CEOs ...

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 6:54 pm**

Well done to Nikel and Vorkosigan. I supplied many of the 500 or so pics that used to make the portraits and I could not identify the ones in the quiz as quick as you two did.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2009 11:51 am**

Generalisimo wrote:Baaaahhh... you complain about "Shoemaker", but only spaniards got who these people were.

I wasn't complaining at all, I personally think he's doing a good job. But all that unfounded optimism... sounds a bit like the French in August'14 thinking that red-and-blue uniforms and frontal charges would work as they did in Austerlitz...

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