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The game is made to be highly moddable, which is good, but if you could submit a list over the different operators in the game the modding would be even easier. The main thing I´m wondering about just now, is the function of "PM_AreaControl". Is the argument separated with "OR" or "AND"? Hard to find out from the occurrences. EG "FRA PM_AreaControl 1 0 1,FRA,SOFIA,BELGRADE,BUCHAREST,ATHENS,CONSTANTINOPLE", must FRA Control all the Capitals, or just one to get the bonus?

Eh eh... a BIG modding manual is scheduled... but it requires a lot of time!

For what concerns your query:

PM_AreaControl

@@Params Format:
"%d,%n,%s1,%s2,..."
(%d is the requested number of areas:
0 no areas should pass the check [mode NOT],
1 at least one area should pass the check [mode OR],
2..n at least 2..n areas should pass the check [n means mode AND])
(%n is the tag of the nation whose control is to be checked on areas, may be also a player side tag)
(%s1,%s2,...,%sn are the Tags of the areas to be checked)

Am I thinking wrong here or will Italy not always lose one diplomat here.
ITA PM_AreaControl -1 0 1,PS_CentralPowers,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO
and
ITA PM_AreaControl -1 0 1,PS_Allies,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO
because if ITA joins Central Powers will they not be considered a part of the Central Powers, and the operator will return true, and vice versa if they join the Allies. Must there not be a check so that they have lost there cities to a hostile power? The lines is from DiplomaticModifiers, line 84,85.
I might be missing something here, is just an idea.

Another question:
Is there a operator who checks for
1) Whom Declared war, not just that 2 countries is at war, but who started it
and 2)
Which country who owns a region, not just control it?
and 3)
The results of a dieroll, eg the sucess of the submarine warfare?
Thanks/ Theodor

I will answer as soon I can. Now I'm deadly busy with one task. Just a bit patience. Thanks, Calvinus.

Absolutely. I think my last questions is far away from your obligation as a game designer to answer, but I do appreciate if you answer them if you have some minutes over sometime.
Good luck with your ongoing task.

Theodor wrote:Another question:
Is there a operator who checks for
1) Whom Declared war, not just that 2 countries is at war, but who started it
and 2)
Which country who owns a region, not just control it?
and 3)

None, sorry.

Theodor wrote:The results of a dieroll, eg the sucess of the submarine warfare?

Not the dieroll, that is not persisted. But yes for the political action:

PM_PoliticalChoiceActive:

@@Params Format:
"%o,%n"
(%o is the political option the nation is supposed/checked to have undertaken, it's a tag taken from the PoliticalOptions DB).
(optional: %n is the tag of the nation whose active political choice is to be checked)

Theodor wrote:Am I thinking wrong here or will Italy not always lose one diplomat here.
ITA PM_AreaControl -1 0 1,PS_CentralPowers,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO
and
ITA PM_AreaControl -1 0 1,PS_Allies,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO
because if ITA joins Central Powers will they not be considered a part of the Central Powers, and the operator will return true, and vice versa if they join the Allies. Must there not be a check so that they have lost there cities to a hostile power? The lines is from DiplomaticModifiers, line 84,85.
I might be missing something here, is just an idea.

Indeed it's a problem. I think we should do several rows instead:

1,GER,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO
1,AUS,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO

and:

1,FRA,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO
1,ENG,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO
1,RUS,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO

I think I have fixed the problem by doing like this:
ITA PM_AreaControl 1 0 9,ITA,TORINO,MILANO,GENOVA,VENEZIA,RAVENNA,FIRENZE,NAPOLI,TARANTO,PALERMO

and reducing Italys starting Diplomats by one. If Italy owns all her Cities there is no other who owns an Italian city. If anybody else owns a ITA city Italy looses its bonus = An ITA malus if anybody occupied one city. At least it´s think it´s correct. This give the bonus of one line less and that the modifier is in effect even if some undecided country, like Turkey, invades.

Great Theodor! Keep so and you will become the official WW1 Modder!

Edit: As soon you have a critical mass of news, you can post here all fixed DBs.

You can look at the whole file if you like. It is intended to follow the manuals modifiers, p 199 ffw, as closely as possible. I have altered the Goeben event a bit so TUR have some modifiers who is wrong. Anyway, here it is.

There are some errors and discrepancies. The most annoying is that I can´t find out a way to check for if country a not is a part of CP or allies and still have a region occupied without giving the reversed bonus if they are a part of the other alliance, (eg Afghanistan get +1 if CP occupied Baghdad or Constantinople even if only the allies should get -1 if they do it. Still, i think that is better than the allies get minus one as soon TUR joins them, but that is only a opinion.

Ouch, the amount of changes is impressive!

I will check all of them little by little.

Hopefully it can be of some help. But, while you are reading, can you check line 57,58 and tell me if I´m using PM_WarPlanSelected correct? What number is the argument, the one called "image" in some reference file? I have tried that, but it´s hard to check the actual effect in the game.

PM_WarPlanSelected:

@@Params Format:
"%n,%w"
(%n is the tag of the nation whose war plan is to be checked)
(%w is the tag of the war plan the nation is supposed/checked to have undertaken)

Edit: So no image, but warplan tags, examples (GER):

GER_WP_Schlieffen
GER_WP_Moltke
GER_WP_Kronprinz
GER_WP_Hindenburg
GER_WP_Rupprecht

Luca: Maybe Thedor can be your assistant (unpaid, of course!!)

OK, thanks. Then mine version is wrong, but the original is wrong as well.

I hope you understand me thinking how to check that a certain place is occupied be force, and not occupied because the country joined an alliance.

If I check some other db-file, I let you know.

Moved to the Modding section because much more appropriate.

I attached a couple of corrections/integration to Political Actions DBs.

I corrected the tag of Romania nation for the territorial promises political action (RUM => ROM).

I also added several PM_NationNetural political conditions checks for the Italy/Romania/Bulgaria political actions such as "Call D'Annunzio" or the other territorial promises.

Maybe you should change the topic- title of the thread as well. The sound of "operators" really draws the eyes of everybody .
I thought of something, how do you check for the "Submarine Warfare hits", in Socialtestmodifier when a social test is performed?

Is it possible to use the same procedure to check for the same thing in the diplomaticmodifier?
I´m going to test your changes in politicalmodifiers now, looks good

Yes... your support is great!