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Second Round - West. Manstein is hosting.

The First Round went to Runyan99 USA:

National Morale:
USA = 90
CSA = 97

Victory Points:
USA = 896
CSA = 879

Combat Losses:
USA = 72644 / POW 13400 = 86044 casualties
CSA = 56347 / POW 4300 = 60647 casualties

TURN 1 - 1862, Early March

National Morale:
USA = 99
CSA = 94

Victory Points:
USA = -22
CSA = -33

Combat Losses:
USA = 810
CSA = 750

CSA captured Fort Gibson IT.
USA captured Humboldt TN.
USA captured Columbus KY.
USA captured Lexington KY.
CSA defeated USA at Battle of Pulaski TN (USA loss 123, CSA loss 61).
CSA defeated USA at Battle of Fayetteville AR (USA loss 711, CSA loss 699).
CSA captured Humboldt TN (rebellion).

Runyan appears to be setting up a play for Nashville.

I don't know Runyan's normal playing style, but I expect that he will play aggressively to make up points... We'll see. This should be a fun game.

Housekeeping note - I'm going to delay posting my comments to try to synchronize with Manstein's AAR. The other round got a bit jumbled.

EDIT: Belay that - Manstein does a great job of posting the AAR, so I'll just post my summary at the end.

I will post the AAR at the same fashion that the previous game: I will post the AAR with 5 turns of delay. So, I will post the first turn resolution when the players go by his sixth turn.

TURN 1 - 1862, Late February

National Morale:
USA = 99
CSA = 94

Victory Points:
USA = -22
CSA = -33

Combat Losses:
USA = 810
CSA = 750

USA played Exceptional Taxes
USA played War Bounds at 6%
USA played Call for Volunteers

CSA played Paper Money Print
CSA played Exceptional Taxes
CSA played Full Mobilization
CSA played Call for Volunteers

At Transmississippi Front, the Curtiss´ Western Command tried conquer Fayetteville, under very bad meteorological conditions, but the rebel forces repelled to the federals:


The Transmississippi Front situation is it:


At West Front, the federals tried to surprise to the depot garrison at Pulaski, but Forrest defeated to the Union cavalry:


So, it is the West Front situation:

TURN 2 - 1862, Early March

CSA captured Fort Gibson IT.
USA captured Humboldt TN.
USA captured Columbus KY.
USA captured Lexington KY.
CSA defeated USA at Battle of Pulaski TN.
CSA defeated USA at Battle of Fayetteville AR.
CSA captured Humboldt TN (rebellion).

TURN 2 - 1862, Early March

National Morale:
USA = 99
CSA = 94

Victory Points:
USA = 8
CSA = 4

Combat Losses:
USA = 810
CSA = 1200 / POW 200 rebels

CSA played Paper Money Print

At Transmississippi Front, both side rest:


At West Front, all quiet, but the Union forces advance to Humboldt:

TURN 2 - 1862, Late March

National Morale:
USA = 99
CSA = 94

Victory Points:
USA = 8 (29 per turn)
CSA = 4 (37 per turn)

Combat Losses:
USA = 810
CSA = 1200 / 200 POW

CSA prints paper money.
USA defeated CSA at Battle of Humboldt TN (USA loss 0, CSA loss 445 / 200 POW).
USA captured Humboldt TN.

TURN 3 - 1862, Late March

National Morale:
USA = 93
CSA = 94

Victory Points:
USA = 12
CSA = 41

Combat Losses:
USA = 10710 / POW none
CSA = 7380 / POW 200 rebels

USA played Paper Money Print
USA played Partial Mobilization
CSA played Paper Money Print

Some cavalry combats at all fronts.

The federal forces attacked at Madison, north of Corinth, but the rebel forces repelled to the attackers with great loses for both sides:


So, it is the West Front situation:

TURN 4 - 1862, Early April

National Morale:
USA = 93
CSA = 93

Victory Points:
USA = 49
CSA = 78

Combat Losses:
USA = 10710 / POW none
CSA = 7800 / POW 400 rebels

USA played Paper Money Print
CSA played Paper Money Print

Both sides rest after Madison battle, except Pope, which troops conquer Island 10 forts:


It is the West Front situation:


Butler appears at Mississippi´s mouths:

Runyan must be smiling a little - I just lost USA '2 Landing Force' at Galveston TX (Turn 10). They went in hot (assault mode) and the CSA sent in a force to meet them at the beaches - a Brigade + Sailors were wiped out.

USA '1 Landing Force' and 'Butler' still pose a nuisance to Runyan.

TURN 5 - 1862, Late April

National Morale:
USA = 93
CSA = 92

Victory Points:
USA = 92
CSA = 115

Combat Losses:
USA = 10950 / POW none
CSA = 7890 / POW 600 rebels

CSA played Paper Money Print

At Transmississippi and West Front, all quiet, except some cavalry combat. It´s the West Front situation:


At Mississippi Mouths, the Union forces took the St.Philip and Jackson forts:

TURN 6 - 1862, Early May

National Morale:
USA = 93
CSA = 93

Victory Points:
USA = 122
CSA = 152

Combat Losses:
USA = 12150 / POW none
CSA = 8550 / POW 800 rebels

CSA played Paper Money Print

At the Coastal Front, Butler´s Force assaulted Pensacola and it is the south situation:


At Transmississippi Front some approximations:


At West Front, some cavalry combats and it is his situation:

TURN 7 - 1862, Late May

National Morale:
USA = 93
CSA = 92

Victory Points:
USA = 142
CSA = 189

Combat Losses:
USA = 12450 / POW none
CSA = 9180 / POW 800 rebels

CSA played Paper Money Print

Excepting some cavalry combats, all quiet at all fronts:

TURN 8 - 1862, Early June

National Morale:
USA = 93
CSA = 92

Victory Points:
USA = 171
CSA = 226

Combat Losses:
USA = 14970 / POW none
CSA = 11010 / POW 800 rebels

At Rutherford, south of Nashville, had the most equalizer battle of History, wined for the South thanks to his trenches:


Excepting some cavalry combat more, all quiet at rest of Fronts:

In that Transmississippi screen, I never saw McCook's force next to Ft. Smith. It seems there are some aspects of FOW I am not completely familiar with, or else a bug. I can't see them until they move to Little Rock, next turn, which made their sudden appearance rather troublesome.

In general, super deep cavalry raids are far too easy to pull off at this time. Cohesion loss for cavalry in enemy territory is too low. Sending CSA cavalry to Chicago, or USA cavalry to Mobile, is now far too common in game.

I think they move too damn fast. Yeah a cohesion loss might be a good way of modeling the death of the majority of the horses halfway to Chicago.

TURN 9 - 1862, Late June

National Morale:
USA = 91
CSA = 90

Victory Points:
USA = 201
CSA = 281

Combat Losses:
USA = 17901 / POW 1200 yankees
CSA = 11430 / POW 800 rebels

USA played Exceptional Taxes
USA played Call of Volunteers
CSA played Money Print
CSA played Exceptional Taxes
CSA played Call of Volunteers

At Galveston, the federal disembarking was a disaster:


Excepting some cavalry combat and a surprise north siege at Little Rock, all quiet at all fronts:

A fine day for Texas.

TURN 10 - 1862, Early July

National Morale:
USA = 92
CSA = 88

Victory Points:
USA = 231
CSA = 318

Combat Losses:
USA = 23976 / POW 1200 yankees
CSA = 15129 / POW 800 rebels

CSA played Money Print

At West Front, some cavalry combats more.
At day 11, there was a battle at Corinth. The result is a little odd, but it is because the Hardee´s Corps turned to the gun´s sound, but the original rebel forces (Johnston Army) was destroyed:


Rest of fronts are quiet. These are the fronts situations:

Yes that battle at Corinth is a good example of the bug where corps who march do not appear in the summary. Hardee had a 3 division corps fight from those entrenchments and rout Wallace.

This is a good battle for me, but the destruction of the army HQ means that Sidney Johnston is wounded for two turns, and my corps are disbanded, creating a momentary crisis of command. Luckily, the scenario features an extra HQ at Montgomery, so I've got to get Beauregard and that HQ to the scene ASAP to take command of the army.

TURN 11 - 1862, Late July

National Morale:
USA = 92
CSA = 89

Victory Points:
USA = 260
CSA = 355

Combat Losses:
USA = 27726 / POW 1200 yankees
CSA = 17889 / POW 700 rebels

Some cavalry combats at West Front.
The federals try again to take Corinth, thinking that it will be easy after the South Army destruction, but the rebel forces repel to the yankees:


So, it is the most important fronts situation:

After repelling Wallace twice, and with Bearegard now in place, the Army of the Tenessee is in high feather.

Down south, I suspect that YH's intent in sending all the cavalry to Mississippi is to locate my coastal reaction force, and this turn he finds Breckinridge in Alabama.

TURN 12 - 1862, Early August

National Morale:
USA = 93
CSA = 89

Victory Points:
USA = 298
CSA = 393

Combat Losses:
USA = 29406 / POW 1200 yankees
CSA = 19869 / POW 900 rebels

CSA played Paper Money Print

At Fort Pillow, Pope´s force assaulted and conquered the place:


Rosecrans´ Corps advanced from Nashville to the south, engaging to the E.K.Smith´s force at Rutherford (TN):


At Middle Mississippi Front, the rebel cavalry, under Taylor command, threw out to the Union cavalry from Natchez:


It is the situations at most important fronts:

Not really shown in that shot but Kirby Smith retreats north to Carthage, putting him out of position. He's no longer blocking the way to Chattanooga, which causes some displeasure on my part. Now there is nothing left to do but to footrace Rosecrans back to Chattanooga. It's also time to abandon and sabotage all of middle Tenessee.

Down at New Orleans, Butler appears offshore again, this time with cavalry blocking the rail line. I've got one brigade dug in at New Orleans, but it is very unclear to me what will happen if YH makes an all out invasion of that city next turn.

Overall, I'm very uncomfortable with the situation.

runyan - it pleases me to discomfort you, if I can make you more uncomfortable I will but I'm not doing such a good job of it...

Thanks for posting about the Battle in Corinth where your HQ was destroyed. I couldn't understand why I lost so many men and then why they ran away - now I know that another Corps was involved.

TURN 13 - 1862, Late August

National Morale:
USA = 92
CSA = 90

Victory Points:
USA = 331
CSA = 445

Combat Losses:
USA = 33186 / POW 2200 yankees
CSA = 22299 / POW 1100 rebels

At South Mississippi Front, the Union Fleet advanced to Baton Rouge and dispersed a rebel naval force:


Finally, there is movement at West Front. Two federal attacks begin for surround Memphis. One attack against Corinth is repelled by the rebel forces, but the attack against Covington is successful:



So, it is the fronts situations:

TURN 14 - 1862, Early September

National Morale:
USA = 93
CSA = 90

Victory Points:
USA = 357
CSA = 486

Combat Losses:
USA = 35856 / POW 2400 yankees
CSA = 23739 / POW 1000 rebels

Other naval battle at Baton Rouge waters prevents the federal disembarking:


The federal forces try again to conquer Corinth, but the rebel forces repel to Union troops:


At east, Rosecrans´ Corps try to conquer Chattanooga, crossing the Tennessee river, but A.S.Johnston, recovered of his wounds, defends the river successfully:


It´s the fronts situations:

In reference to the battle at Chattanooga, are the river crossing penalties for combat gone or not working? As you can see in the battle report screen, there is no river crossing icon listed for the Union force, although they obviously had to cross the Tennessee to attack Chattanooga.

runyan99 wrote:In reference to the battle at Chattanooga, are the river crossing penalties for combat gone or not working? As you can see in the battle report screen, there is no river crossing icon listed for the Union force, although they obviously had to cross the Tennessee to attack Chattanooga.

I wonder if the delay in combat affected that. If it takes more than a day or two maybe it's not considered a river crossing. Just conjecturing.

TURN 15 - 1862, Late September

National Morale:
USA = 94
CSA = 91

Victory Points:
USA = 386
CSA = 524

Combat Losses:
USA = 38466 / POW 2400 yankees
CSA = 24759 / POW 1000 rebels

The Thomas´ Corps attacked and was repelled at Memphis, but the rest of Union forces reached to Hardeman (TN), east of Memphis, so, at the next turn we will see a great battle for Memphis, surely:


The situation at the fronts: